Full tuition at Alabama probably brings the cost down to $15,000-$16,000 (rather than $20,000-$25,000) – take a look at http://www.ua.edu/quickfacts/cost.html and subtract the tuition.
If he is interested in fraternities (and sorority women), you may want to look up the other discussions about the Greek letter houses and “The Machine” at Alabama.
Ohio University
U of Rochester
Saint Louis University
Illinois Institute of Technolog
Also, South Dakota School of Mines & Technology. Excellent and rigorous STEM education. National reputation among professional engineers. Undergraduate-focused. Large amount of research money for a small university, therefore there are significant research opportunities for students. Excellent internship and co-op opportunities from employers such as NASA, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Intel, Ford Motor Company, 3M, ConAgra, Microsoft, ExxonMobil etc. Best of all, Mines is a tuition bargain at approximately $22,000 total COA for non-SD residents.
My list is almost ready! I have a few comments on the recent suggestions.
I may add:
Olin, after all, why not–it was on very first list of about 30 schools but was left off the short list
South Dakota was also on the original list - will look at it again
Swarthmore has a 3/2 engineering program and my son prefers not to do the 3/2. Didn’t make the list for this reason
If I have any sanity left by the end of the day, today, I will look into other recommendations.
Swarthmore does have engineering (not 3/2). However, it’s a particular college, battling it out with Reed for intensity of workload. http://www.swarthmore.edu/engineering
Olin is a teeny, niche fit school (about 80 grads per class). It’s a fantastic place for the right engineering studentt, excellent value if affordable. It should not be recommended solely for the financial aspects. The scholarship is half tuition (not half-ride). so cost is over $40k/year. High stats applicants can typically get much lower cost elsewhere.
Miami of Ohio offers great Merit awards, while OSU is very stingy. D. had HS GPA = 4.0 (unweight, graduated #1 in her private HS class) and ACT=33. Miami offered full tuition Merit, and then she got additional $4k when she applied for Returning student scholarship at the end of freshman year, while other publics in OH offered very little, including OSU. Another school that offered a great Merit scholarship was Case Western. Miami was a great overall undergraduate experience for my pre-med D.
I am taking my list to the school counselor at 3pm today. I am down to the wire. Cincinnati’s scholarships are very competitive(spoke to them on the phone) so it dosn’t make the cut even though the program is great. I still have Miami of Ohio’s info and ‘big merit aid’ is a plus - COA if full merit is granted is around 20,000. OSU has stacked scholarships so would not hurt to keep them on the list. Added UNC Charlotte as a safety for cost (instate) and academics though engineering is not on par with others.
Vandog, my S applied to Cincinnati (it was a while ago but I suspect things are similar). He was accepted to their COE. One thing to know is that UC has a manditory co-op program and that scholarships will be front loaded for the first year. My S did receive an initial scholarship (which was not big). Another scholarship for the Honors college and additional money from the COE and the department he was applying to. As the deadline came, he was offered more money as others turned down the offers and money was available.
My D applied and was accepted to Miami of Ohio, she was offered a fair amount of merit money but from the info I heard, that was very unusual. She was applying to their engineering department. We investigated their engineering department and at that time, did not think it was particularly strong. The thing about engineering is about how they can recruit on campus and attract employers for internships and co-ops. At that time we felt Miami lagged behind the other schools in Ohio. Now that may have changed but that was our impression.
My final list…and I am sticking to it…I think. And a great big thank you to all!
1.NC State
2.UA
3.UAH
4.Temple
5.Howard
6.Ohio State
7.South Dakota Mining and Technology
8.Arizona state
9.Miami Univ of Ohio
10.UNC Charlotte (safety and instate)
11. NC A&T (ultimate safety and instate)
12. Georgia Tech
My max is 15, so three can be added later, but the plan is to send in all by Nov 1st, except for a few that are due on Oct 15 which are being sent in tomorrow!
Thanks @mommdc for the Pitt referral. I called them for details. It is officially on my list at #13. Possible full tuition with qualifying criteria for ACT and GPA. Thanks!
I looked at that link, and wondered: just what groups are underrepresented at Pitt? Do they have a list? Is it nationality, political, race, sex, sexual preference? I don’t wonder about this just at Pitt, but sometimes it’s hard to tell.
My DD is on a full tuition scholarship for Pitt. Her hook was a female in CE and maybe more important from Texas. They are looking for state diversity. An area that also appears to be under represented there is Hispanic. Maybe just because I am from Tx, I am used to a much higher percentage of Hispanic students in the mix.
According to College Scorecard, for family incomes of $75,001-$110,000, the average annual cost to attend Harvey Mudd is $23,229. For Duke, it is $25,480. For family incomes of $48,001-$75,000, the average costs would be $10,771 for Harvey Mudd or $14,207 for Duke. Your milege may vary … but these and about 50-60 other selective, private schools do claim to cover 100% of demonstrated financial need. Depending on your other circumstances, their net costs after need-based aid may be competitive with what you’d pay after merit aid from other colleges.
The NPCs should be fairly accurate for need-based aid (unless, perhaps, your situation involves business/farm assets, divorce, or other complicating factors.)