Help With Wharton

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But everybody at Penn HATES Whartonites. Some of them are okay, but others are incredibly pretentious and competitive. The Penn grade curve is infamous, so everybody has to compete against each other just to pass. But the perks about being a Whartonite are the amazing dorms. Basically all the old Wharton alum donate tons of money, so Whartonites have the best dorms, which are cut off from all other Penn students. There's literally an elevator to go up to Wharton dorms, which is forbidden by other students.. funny eh? I can see why everyone hates them.

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LOL must be the latest rumors floating around this site. </p>

<p>Wharton-only dorms: do not exist.</p>

<p>"Penn Curve": no such thing.</p>

<p>Everybody at Penn HATES Whartonites: LOL Obviously false, because that's a logical contradition since Whartonites themselves are also Penn students.</p>

<p>So it's not true that all Wharton students wear Armani suits to class and arrive in chauffer driven limos?</p>

<p>This is classic!</p>

<p>haha.. well obviously I've never been to the Wharton only stuff.. but I definitely know people in CAS who are definitely jealous. And it's pretty well known that people in CAS hate Whartonites... if you've never heard of this, then you're being naive. Hate forms from jealousy. And there is no Penn curve? Then why am I hearing about this from Penn alum and current students? I will definitely find a link...</p>

<p><a href="http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/%7Efaulhabe/621/Grading%20Details.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://assets.wharton.upenn.edu/~faulhabe/621/Grading%20Details.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>This is an explanation about the grade curve at Penn.. look on the bottom for specifically Wharton</p>

<p>and this is the online diary of a Wharton student:
<a href="http://diaries.wharton.upenn.edu/PostDetails.asp?RecordID=2373%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://diaries.wharton.upenn.edu/PostDetails.asp?RecordID=2373&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>She talks about her "the crazy ass Wharton curve"</p>

<p>Oh, and here are the Wharton only dorms
<a href="http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/downloads/publications/mbares0203.pdf%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/downloads/publications/mbares0203.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>go down to the housing/dining</p>

<p>No, here they are: <a href="http://www.angelfire.com/in/myindia/taj8.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.angelfire.com/in/myindia/taj8.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>I really like this Wharton girl. She's funny. </p>

<p>"Crazy Ass Curve
At Wharton, we have a hard curve. So the top 10-15% get a DS, the equivalent of an A, the next 15-20% get an HP or a B, and the middle half get a P (as in average C), the bottom 10% get a QC (although it's recorded as a P) to signal that you need to step it up. Sounds all well and good right. OK here's the problem. People at Wharton tend to be high achievers, so getting the elusive DS isn't always about how hard you work. I've been an several classes where the means on tests were in the high 80s and low 90 percentile. In what alternative universe is an 89% a C? Wharton that's where. So in a lot of classes the differences between a DS and a P can be very slim. </p>

<p>So in essence the curve amplifies these slight differences. It can be demotivating. Why put in extra effort when you still fall in P range if you can put in significantly less work and still get a P? The fact that the massive middle gets the equivalent of a C even when on an absolute scale they kicked ass is the cause of much of the complacency professors complain about in my opinion. And for those who do work hard for the Ps, the fact that professors (and recruiters if we disclose) assume that they didn't master the material, or didn't care, or didn't try can be another frustrating demotivator. I'm sorry, but nothing you say is going to convince me that the person with a DS and a 96 is that much better than the person who ends up with a P and a 93. Sorry 3 extra points doesn't indicate that much more mastery. That difference can be one question guessed right or wrong. But the rewards that are associated with that three point difference if we disclose, seems unfair. And it does nothing to encourage actual learning."</p>

<p>and quaker.. ahahaha</p>

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Oh, and here are the Wharton only dorms

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No, that's only for Wharton MBA people. That has nothing to do with Wharton undergrad. Wharton undergrad lives with the rest of the undergrad.</p>

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She talks about her "the crazy ass Wharton curve"

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The "Wharton Curve," which centers at a 3.0 is actually more generous than the curves in many intro science/engineering classes, which centers to a 2.5.</p>

<p>"Penn Curve" does not exist. There is no official policy on curves that apply to the entire school.</p>

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At Wharton, we have a hard curve. So the top 10-15% get a DS, the equivalent of an A, the next 15-20% get an HP or a B, and the middle half get a P (as in average C), the bottom 10% get a QC (although it's recorded as a P) to signal that you need to step it up.

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That's only for MBA grading. Completely different from undergrad grading.</p>

<p>Are you applying for your MBA? ;)</p>

<p>Also, I'm not a Whartonite, but I think Whartonites are fine and most of them get along with the rest of the school.</p>

<p>I don't think there is an official "Penn Curve." It's not like the curve was named and baptised or anything. But I really do think you're being picky about wording, so I'll have to be more careful. But there are definite curves in CAS, like in economics for example:</p>

<p>"The University of Pennsylvania limited the number of students who could receive an A in an introductory economics course to one-third of the class, and required that another third receive a C or lower. The change resulted in intense competition among students, who refused to share notes or help their classmates."
~<a href="http://www.highereducation.org/crosstalk/ct0302/news0702-high_marks.shtml%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.highereducation.org/crosstalk/ct0302/news0702-high_marks.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Oh, and yes, the dorms are for graduate MBA people. But I don't remember saying undergrad. After all, Wharton MBA people are still "Whartonites."</p>

<p>Besides, I think that Wharton Undergrad is pretty pointless. You should spend less money going to another school for undergrad and then go to Wharton grad. And it's harder to go both Wharton undergrad and grad, so if you want get your MBA at Wharton, then you might not want to go to Wharton undergrad.</p>

<p>Bleh.. I'm getting soooo sick of Wharton. Random good news: I just got a job as a hostess at a restaurant!</p>

<p>the only part i saw about dorms for wharton mba students only is about the living community in sansom place west, which is otherwise totally open to all undergraduates (and the rooms don't get any better from floor to floor).</p>

<p>also, curves are set by the professor, which is why they vary from course to course (and even among sections of the same course) - sometimes they're vicious, and sometimes they're nice - this sort of policy is not uncommon among the majority of colleges and universities in this country.</p>

<p>nonetheless, penn isn't for everyone, and people often turn down penn for schools that are more suited to their interests, even ones that are less well known and less highly ranked (in very subjective indices, but that doesn't matter).</p>

<p>good luck at georgetown; good luck working at that restaurant.</p>

<p>What the hell? I proved Venus that she was posting hysterical content based on incorrect facts. Then she just throw some straw man points against me on technicalities and other irrelevant stuff. lol....I was just trying to be helpful. And there's no need to convince me that Wharton MBAs are also Whartonintes.</p>

<p>hm i wasn't trying to argue against you (if you're speaking to me) - just trying to add to what you said</p>

<p>nevermind. ; )</p>

<p>wharton is much more mediocre than you make it out to be</p>

<p>nobody's trying to argue against you! relaaaaax... reow!</p>

<p>Could you specify what awards you won in FBLA? Thanks</p>

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