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<p>I’m glad it helped. One of the wonderful things about this forum is that it is a wealth of information and encouragement. A good way to find schools is to look at the lists of results from previous applicants - it won’t predict where you will get in, by any means, but it gives ideas of what schools appeal to a certain kind of person. So if you like school X, if someone applied there and also to school Y, it’s worth looking at school Y.</p>

<p>I highly recommend having some school with a good department, that you can afford, where you can apply either EA or with rolling admissions. There is nothing like having at least one acceptance before December, so you know you will be going to college. Your parents will appreciate that, too, I bet.</p>

<p>I don’t think these are in your target areas, but I’ll mention them anyway – Chapman University takes auditions by DVD (though this may be changing with some of their new standards this year, call and ask to be sure) and Southern Methodist University also does the video prescreening where you send in a tape and will then let you know whether it would be worth it or not to audition in person.</p>

<p>I’ve got some more colleges I’m curious about…ready for the ever-inquisitive mind?
Point Park; Oklahoma City; Carnegie Mellon; North Carolina School of the Arts; UCLA; U of Evansville; Northern Illinois; Royal Scottish Academy of Music and Drama; LIPA; Rutgers; U of Hartford; Penn State.</p>

<p>P.S. Which schools (out of ANY that have been mentioned on this thread) have the best fin. aid? Thanks!</p>

<p>For the state schools, I think UNSCA is the best bargain, and considered by many to be on par with Rutgers, in terms of quality. Rutgers for out-of-state will run you in the high 30’s.</p>

<p>Hartt (Univ of Hartford) is not known for being generous but is an excellent program and they have an early acceptance policy where if you apply and audition by Dec, you receive an answer early. My son was accepted EA and this was a huge help in decreasing the anxiety factor at Unifieds. Point Park was generous to us and my son was able to audition off the property as they hold regional auditions. He heard by mid-January that he was deferred and then was accepted not too long after. CMU and UNCSA are HIGHLY competitive, Univ of Evansville does look hard at grades and test scores, Rutgers (Mason Gross) is highly competitive as well. </p>

<p>So let me stress right up front, all these programs should be considered competitive, because anything you have to audition for is not a safe school. None of these programs are large and they have a lot of kids auditioning for a comparatively small number of spots. If I were you, I would search each of these on cc, individually. You will get much better info that way…</p>

<p>Just so you know - I found some non-auditioned schools I could do :slight_smile: </p>

<p>Northwestern; U of RI; UMinn…is Temple auditioned? I don’t think it is but I could be wrong.</p>

<p>Northwestern is non-auditioned BUT a VERY tough academic admit. What are your academic stats? </p>

<p>Temple is non-auditioned for Theatre. </p>

<p>How much can you and your family afford to pay for college per year? I think you mentioned having financial guidelines you would need to work within. Also – are you a transfer student or a freshman (I think you… or someone… may have mentioned that you are a transfer student). If a transfer are you trying to complete your degree in 2, 3, or 3 years? </p>

<p>I believe you have UMBC on your list… what about UMCP?</p>

<p>KatMT, thanks for the info on NW and Temple! Academic stats - we’re looking at a 3.95 GPA (comm. college) and an 1860 SAT. I know the SAT score isn’t that impressive, but…oh well.</p>

<p>As for paying for college, my parents can’t afford anything at all. I may or may not be able to pay for a small percentage, depending on if I’m able to get a job. That’s why I asked about the best financial aid programs. I’ve only been called for an interview once out of I don’t know how many times…but I digress…
I don’t care if I have to go for two, three, or four years, as long as I get a quality education. Is UMCP a good school for theatre? Thanks!</p>

<p>College Park is good for Theatre. Not a conservatory program, but a solid program.</p>

<p>Have you run NPC on college websites? What about a FAFSA forcaster? Most schools do not give much in the way of talent aid, and academic merit aid is generally for entering freshmen. Unless you are over 24 or meet the other criteria for being considered an independent student your parent’s finances will be taken into consideration when calculating a need based aid package. The school will not generally take into account what your family thinks they can pay, rather the school will calculate what they think you can pay. </p>

<p>FAFSA EFC is generally considered the very LEAST you should expect to pay for college costs. Most schools will gap a student (meaning that the student will have to pay more than the FAFSA EFC). </p>

<p>As a transfer student your SAT may not be considered at all for admissions or aid.</p>

<p>Even if you are willing to take 4 years to complete a program that does not mean you will be considered a “freshman” for admissions or aid purposes.</p>

<p>Generally speaking in-state public schools are going to be your best bet for completing your degree… particularly schools that will accept transfer credits from your CC, so you could complete your degree “on time.”</p>

<p>There is a poster from MD --happymomof1, I think. – Her D completed an associates at a MD CC and is now at a MD state school completing her degree. She would be a good person to reach out to for MD specific advice. </p>

<p>If you do not have “unlimited” funds for college (most do not!) You will have to be strategic in your college list and cost will likely be a significant factor in where you attend.</p>

<p>Private scholarships will likely not come close to helping you pay for college… most are non-renewable. the best aid comes from the colleges themselves, but this is not generally the case for transfer students. </p>

<p>The exception is schools that promise to meet full financial need for all students (even transfers), IF your family ends up with an EFC of “0” and has no significant assets, a family business, or a non-custodial parent (and/ or spouse) with a more significant income or assets that would raise the amount you and your family is expected to pay for college.</p>

<p>Even a “significant” scholarship from an expensive private or OOS public university is likely to be no more that $10,000 (particularly for a transfer student)… if the cost of attendance is $30,000 - $60,000 per year and you cannot afford more than $10,000 per year that $10,000 scholarship is still going to leave an insurmountable gap.</p>

<p>I do not say any of this to discourage you, but to empower you to ask the questions that will make it affordable for you to complete your education at a school with a program you would like to attend. They do exist!</p>

<p>All the best!</p>

<p>Wow. Thanks for the info on fin. aid. I never knew it could be that hard! But now I know what I’m getting in to.:)</p>

<p>marylandchick, Temple might be worth looking into. They give automatic scholarships based on scores and GPA, so you might find that the cost is lower than the sticker price.</p>

<p>Thanks, glassharmonica! I’m working on Temple’s NPC right now!</p>

<p>What’s an NPC?</p>

<p>NPC = Net Price Calculator. </p>

<p>Sent from my DROID RAZR using CC</p>

<p>It looks like UMCP is my most affordable safety option as of now, with SUNY-Purchase as my most affordable reach. I’ll have to do some more research.</p>

<p>You mentioned Carnegie Mellon. It’s one of the top top top programs, one of the toughest to get into, and is not known to be particularly generous with financial aid. </p>

<p>My son is going to Ithaca in the fall. It has an excellent reputation and if they really want you they will give you a lot of merit aid.</p>

<p>Thanks, prodesse! Do you know the transfer acceptance rate for Ithaca?</p>

<p>So, on my list:</p>

<p>UMBC, UMCP, CSM, BCU, Temple, Ithaca, SUNY-Purchase, CCU, and a couple others. I need to go back and look at the pros and cons list.</p>

<p>This looks like a good list. Just make sure that you like and would be happy to attend you academic/ artistic/ financial “safety” school. Often having two such schools on a list can be good, because if those end up being the only affordable options you still have a choice.</p>

<p>Also check with the schools to see which might allow you to complete the program in less than four years as a transfer student. This could make a program that seems unaffordable more affordable or visa versa.</p>

<p>CCU does accept some transfer students in as sophomores. You may want to email Ken Martin and ask about the specifics of what they look at/consider for offering those.</p>