Here to answer questions - SAIC, LCAD, CCA, CalArts, ArtCenter, CMU, MICA

I was just thinking that if there are any rising seniors thinking about applying to art school/art programs, I could help them out. I personally found the process to be a bit daunting, not knowing what kind of portfolio each school wanted. I applied to way too many schools, and I wish I had someone giving me more advice on which schools I should’ve applied to/how to work on my portfolio/the general application process.

I got into SAIC, Laguna College of Art and Design, California College of the Arts, CalArts, ArtCenter, Carnegie Mellon University, and MICA, and I was fortunate enough to receive merit aid from nearly all of these schools.

So if anyone has any questions, feel free to ask! I feel that a lot of the threads in this forum are outdated and could use a fresher perspective.

Where are you studying/enrolled? Looking to make a decision between Carnegie Mellon University, and MICA.

@Zebra678

Which program at CMU have you been accepted into? I enrolled into CMU Design.
I chose CMU because it’s a university environment, and they seem to have a very well-developed and innovative design curriculum.

It sounds like you just accepted for Fall '16, like my daughter will be. She was accepted to CMU College of Art, applied to their College of Design but did not get in. She liked CMU a lot, but rec’d hardly any aid/merit. Got huge merit from MICA;we also loved their program. Hard to justify more than double the cost for CMU. She will be attending MICA in fall. Best of luck to you.

My daughter is going to apply to many of the schools you listed! I’m sure I’ll be back with lots of questions!

@Zebra678 Yup, Fall 2016. MICA gave me a sizable scholarship but CMU actually gave me a huge amount of aid which I am grateful for. MICA seems like an excellent school and your daughter will hopefully do great there. Thank you!

@moonpie I’ll try to keep you updated!

I am very interested in attending Art Center, for Concept Art under the Entertainment Design major. I will ultimately apply to several colleges, but this one and this major are my dream. I will be a high school Junior in the fall, working on my portfolio now and over the next year. My online research shows that many freshman there are in their early 20’s, therefore doing something else before applying there. I see that you got into Art Center, straight from high school. What advice would you give to me, trying to do the same thing? What do you think helped your chances? Do you think it is harder for an 18 year old?

@animal1096 I don’t think your chances are any worse off just because of your age.

Most high schoolers pursuing art/design have a more general fine art portfolio, good for general admission to many art schools. But ArtCenter has very specific portfolio requirements for each major, so just focus on really building a portfolio that targets the skills that the major requires. If you do that, you won’t be at any disadvantage. Make sure your passion for your major shows!

And since you’re going to be a junior, try to go to National Portfolio Day to get feedback early.

Is there any theme colleges look for in portfolios. And can a mediocre artist make it if he is willing to work hard. Lastly, which schools provide the best financial aid (especially to a bisexual immigrant)

@Flatscreengamer you will need to read each school’s web page for their specifics on portfolio submission. Be sure to read the directions closely and follow them faithfully. In general the art/design schools will want your portfolio to include some observational work which might consist of self-portraits and/or landscapes. They may wish to see some sketches and even some of your sketchbook. Most of your portfolio will be submitted as images via Slideroom.

Regardless of what you submit, make it your voice and your own artistic style. Even those with little skill should be able to demonstrate this. Being yourself is the only theme you should worry about.

Some schools value observational and figure drawing as a major criterion for admissions while others recognize that many contemporary creatives have never taken a pencil to paper so will look at other creative work more closely. That’s ok - research what the school is looking for and find the ones that you think will accept your current talents and help you achieve your goals. These schools write all about that on their websites so you will learn a lot just by reading those.

Two very practical things to keep in mind: 1) no reproductions; and 2) no anime. They want to see original work in your own voice and style.

Most schools realize that some students may not have an opportunity for decent training at the high school level. They aren’t looking for the most accomplished artist as much as the art student who is most willing to learn. Hard work will be a minimum! A BFA program is an intensive studio experience and you will be critiqued every step of the way. Having said all this, the stronger the portfolio the higher the merit aid. Academics will matter, all else equal, but the portfolio matters the most for the overwhelming majority of schools.

Keep in mind that there are university programs that do NOT require a portfolio at entry level. You apply sometime after freshman year to the major and that’s the time you submit your portfolio (and you will have taken some art and design courses by then). However, the most notable programs typically require the portfolio at entry level and those that don’t will typically strongly encourage you to submit one nonetheless.

Check out the National Portfolio Day schedules this fall and take your work to be assessed. Here’s the link: http://www.portfolioday.net

Hopefully you’ll find a portfolio day near you. You can typically find last year’s schedule online to see which schools attended. That way you can target some schools of interest and hit them up first. Many use this resource to put the finishing touches on their portfolio before final submission.

Lots of schools provide lots of merit money (not much need-based aid other than federal grants and loans). Not sure if being bi-sexual is exactly a hook at an art college but you can always give it a try :slight_smile:

Edit/addendum: Just remembered you are also an immigrant. If you are classified as “international” you may not be eligible for merit-based aid. You’ll need to check with the school. Not sure what the status of federal need-based aid is currently for immigrants - might depend on your status. You should definitely be in contact with the school on this issue to get guidance.

Good luck to you!

I’m a us citizen now. And I have been here since the age of 5 so I don’t think I would qualify as a international student, what do you think? Also thank you!

If you are a US citizen then you are not an international.

Ok, great!

What were your gpa/SAT/ACT scores? I’m applying to nearly all the schools you mentioned as well as RISD, Pratt, Parsons, etc. but i’m worried that my stats aren’t good enough. A lot of people say that gpa really doesn’t matter for art schools but others say that they use gpa to narrow down applicants. I went to portfolio day and my portfolio was received positively by many schools, but i’m still wondering if my gpa could potentially hurt me.

@bluepig97ie

Don’t be stressed out about it. I’d say generally the grades can only help you. Think scholarships?
At some of the top tier art schools it might come into play a bit more.

Unweighted GPA: 3.87 (It’s only “high” because I took a lot of art/music courses)
SAT: 2110. I don’t think I got into any schools because of my GPA.

Would you be willing to share your portfolio? I’m also applying to CMU as a design major, and am wondering what the work of accepted applicants looks like. I’ll share mine too if anyone is willing to give feedback.

oddly missing in this conversation are schools like VCUARTS and UCLA . These are two of the top ranked best fine arts programs In the entire country as per USNW ranked tied #2 behind Yale. D attends VCUARTS and had choice of all the schools mentioned (other than RISD -she didn’t apply ). Both have merit $'s and public school tution rates! for top programs. Downside is both are very competitive. Personally, Richmond VA is a really cool arts environment.

@stones3 You are quoting graduate school rankings. They are not interchangeable. Instead of constantly using these misleading rankings, why not put in words why you think VCUARTS is such a great program? That would be a much better and more accurate approach! I am not doubting that your child has had a great experience or that the school has graduated fine artists. Why not give details rather than rankings?

@stones3 Also the cost of tuition and fees at UCLA for their art program without room and board is $42,241.03. Room and board (without personal expenses and travel) is estimated on their website as being over $16K. So you are at approx $60K for a public university. And note that they do not give merit aid without need.

So in our case, a lot of other schools that give merit aid without need would be much cheaper. D received $14K a year from Pratt (no need) and if she applied RD for NYU she may have gotten a talent scholarship without need as well. She did get merit aid as an upperclassman because she applied for talent scholarships.

are you suggesting VCUARTS isn’t one of the top ranked art schools in the US? now that would truly be misleading.
and its tuition is the most reasonable of the top 10. NYU is $72k with r/b . We toured Pratt and toured the upstate campus as well. d thought well of it and was accepted just when visiting VCUARTS in Richmond it fit her 100%.
Good luck at Pratt. It was many many years ago but my mother attended Pratt as well.