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Chance Me / Match Me!
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<p>Hi my name is Phillip,
sorry about the title. Seeing that loads of people are posting i was hoping that it would catch ur attention. I have two questions in mind and i would be trully gratefull if you could answer them with the the COLD CUT truth and nothing else.</p>

<p>1) (the obvious) What do you guys (and girls) think of my chances of getting into Wharton?</p>

<p>2) I am currently involved deeply in the sciences at the moment. Do you think it will work against me seeing that the admin people MIGHT say " *** WHY buisness all of a sudden?!" ?</p>

<p>The following is my fast and simple list of stuff about me.</p>

<p>ACADEMIC...
GPA- 3.67 (unweighted)
Graduating- 2007 (senior to be)
Sophomore- AP BIO
Junior- AP chem, AP french(french 5), AP US
Senior AP English, AP Econ, AP stat, AP Calc BC, AP French ('french 6')</p>

<p>3.67 is a A- average in my school (Hong Kong International School).
SAT- took in june... predicting around 2200s
SAT II- (not impressive) Bio- 710 Chem- 700 US-640</p>

<p>The ONly AP score i know at the moment is the Bio which was a 5.</p>

<p>ECA...</p>

<p>Amensty letter writer for 6 years</p>

<p>NHS member since sophomore year</p>

<p>Elected Hong Kong International Senator of Discipline</p>

<p>Varsity Swimming (3 years) and Captain (2 years)
Competing in the Age Group Championships etc...INTENSE 10 hours per week</p>

<p>JV Basketball (3 years) Capt. (2 years)</p>

<p>Science Center Director and Founder - A science 'help center' that is part of the science department.</p>

<p>HKIS Science Society Director and Founder- Group consisting of not the MOST talented but the most enthusiastic young scientists. We compete in local science fair competition etc. It is also the senior memebers job to teach 8 promising Honors student Advanced material. (preparation for the USABO)</p>

<p>Proctor of the USABO and the Chemistry Olympiad. (also took it this year after studying indivudally over the summer. Made the top 10 %)</p>

<p>High School Mathematics Modelling Competition (HiMCm) National Outstanding away winner (top 2 %). [International competion with over 200 teams competing]</p>

<p>First cellist in the HKIS Strings in my freshmen year- but currently only playing for a hobby.</p>

<p>Took a intense semester credit course in Biotechnology in the Penn Engineering School. (A-)</p>

<p>i'm also a Teacher Assitant during the school year and a Administration Assistant in the summer.</p>

<p>Please feel free to ask any questions.</p>

<p>Thanks EVERYONE ^^</p>

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<p>... i just realized that many people here are very unforgiving with the whole speculation thing.</p>

<p>About the SAT '2200' im quite confident becuase early in my sophomore year i took the SAT and got 2000. That day i was also VERY sleepy because i had returned to Hong Kong only 6 hours ago. (Singpore swimming Competition). THis time i also preped All sophomore summer and during the year.</p>

<p>Some of you might be worried about the sudden 5 APs in one year. </p>

<p>1) i am currently preping for the Econ French and Stat.
2) these 5 APS are my ONLY core courses. The rest are religion, transistion and PE.
3) currently have 3 college essays written</p>

<p>Thanks Again.</p>

<p>Phil</p>

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<p>I'm from Hong Kong too... lol... nice to see you here...
Questions:
What are your scores for those APs you've taken?
Does your school really have Varsity and JV? I thought there were only A, B, C grades?</p>

<p>oops, I forgot to answer the questions.
1. I don't know because you are a special case. Although you are an international and have a great looking resume, it may hurt you if you are not a US citizen.
2. It will look weird, imo. It's because you do not show any passion at all. I don't know. Maybe i'm wrong. I just signed up for all AP science classes to "show" my passion to science.</p>

<p>Anyways, I hope I would have got into an international school in HK before.</p>

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<p>Assuming you were an US resident, I would say match or slight reach.
But it may be different if you are international.</p>

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<p>Thanks.</p>

<p>I am a US citizen.
Our school calls them Varisty and JV. The AP exams i took this year are not out yet, from what i know that is. </p>

<p>I had a feeling that my passion for Bio was evident seeing that i brought in the USABO and took it with some success. AND also becuase of my dedication to the science society etc.</p>

<p>What do you think my weakness is? </p>

<p>Appreciate it!</p>

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<p>Let me explain something, so you don't think I'm being too tough here.</p>

<p>The Wharton school is the best business school in the world--not the US, not North America, not the Western Hemisphere--the world, okay?</p>

<p>Here's a list of just a few of their alumni:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/alumni/leadership/%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/alumni/leadership/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>The University of Pennsylvania admitted 11,500 students last year. Of those ranked by their school, 81% of these people were ranked #1 in their high school, and over 94% ranked in the top 10% of their class. The average UW GPA was 3.84 two years ago. The number of students admitted from Asia last year was 101 total.</p>

<p>The average SAT scores for UPenn (not Wharton, just UPenn) was 694 Reading and 718 Math. </p>

<p>Now let's talk Wharton--the average GPA is probably around 3.93 U/W with average SAT scores of around 724 Verbal and 770 Math. There are a total of around 519 students entering each year, of these 83 international students are admitted each year, of which 35 or so come from Asia. </p>

<p>So let's talk about the chances of someone from Asia being accepted. You will be competing against a larger group for fewer spots, therefore you will need a ranking/GPA and SAT scores above the average to be competitive. You have a 3.67 U/W GPA with a likely ranking of 60th out of 500 students and with a probable SAT I score of 725CR and 735 Math. </p>

<p>(Notice here that you are probably not even 35th in your class, much less 35th in all of Asia)</p>

<p>I'd give you about a 1% chance if you had excellent ECs and showed a passion for business. You do have excellent ECs, but your passion for business is nowhere to be found--so your chance at acceptance in my view is zero.</p>

<p>Sorry--just the facts.</p>

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<p>I don't see anything special.</p>

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<p>I go to a school in New york, and one of my best friends dad went to UPenn, and gives a substantial amount of money each year, he has high scores also and he is doubtful he'll get into Wharton.</p>

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<p>yea I agree.... You are not special indeed... but you can still try... I think you can probably get into UPenn, but very unlikely Wharton.</p>

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<p>I agree with what hoganwan said: " think you can probably get into UPenn, but very unlikely Wharton."</p>