<p>Recognize 2010</p>
<p>RECOGNIZE THE CLASS OF 2010!! </p>
<p>Let the Plebes eat grilled cheese tomorrow. Please!</p>
<p>so tonight at our PKT # 9 we had planned on everyone writing "RECOGNIZE 2010!" as the answer to every question. on # 2 the RTO caught on, and told us "Don't do it." and that was all he said. after that we wrote it again. he was ticked and said "This is your last chance, don't do it." and over 1/4 of the class did as they were told and sold out. needless to say this is disappointing. those that did not continue were told later by our CTOPO that they "Crumbled under pressure, and let down the whole class." thus ended PKT # 9.</p>
<p>Tough luck for you 2010 guys. don't give up though, it took us something like four tries before we actually got the whole class to write recognize 2009 on their PKTs, there's always one person who wants to hold back.</p>
<p>Darn, that would be so hard to know what to do.</p>
<p>our class needs to grow the balls we claim we have</p>
<p>It's not even christmas yet and you guys are already asking to be recognized???? I think they should push it back just for that :) I'll start with the "we had it so much harder" how about no Mets game during Indoc, no half hour "personal time" during indoc and none of this saturday lib stuff. You guys are a bunch of pansies ;) </p>
<p>/soup nazi voice
No grilled cheese for you</p>
<p>yeah no kiddin mantz its not even christmas. they are basically giving us recognition and now you want to ask them for it? trust me they have done their part just pass the damn pkt and stop looking for hand me downs. as rto said the training staff isn't against us.</p>
<p>I don't think KP10 (maybe he doesn't wish his last name up on the board, ahhh part of a moniker is privacy) is asking for a handout. </p>
<p>I think he is expressing that part of getting recognized is the group cohesiveness and the group broke down. </p>
<p>If you read the post above the cto even expressed that as a group, their cohesiveness crumbled under pressure.... and in doing so let down their whole class. </p>
<p>Correct my misunderstanding but isn't part of the recognition process seeing that the group has become a unified whole? And to have had 100% of participation in this would have demonstrated this. My confusion comes in this incidence that the unity would be demonstrated in a certain level of defiance to the authority and I am not certain if that was a good idea. </p>
<p>However the cto said that they crumbled and let the whole unit down. So that communicates that the unity of the group supercedes the issue of insubordination on the pkt. </p>
<p>As an outsider looking in I must say that I am always amazed at what appears to my civilian eyes as an inconsistency. </p>
<p>Is it anything that can be explained to us civie people?</p>
<p>just to clarify something... i am not comming out begging for recognition...i just am saying that our class has no balls and did not follow through with what was planned when faced with the possibility of consequences...</p>
<p>KP10sMOM, let me see if I can help you out. The point of recognition is to show the class's ability to work together from a point of nothingness that was established during indoc, and come together as one unit to attain the ultimate goal of their first year here at school. By the whole class writing "recognize 2010" on their PKTs, it is not a sign of defiance of the RTOA, but a sign to him that they can come together as one unified group and think outside the box if you will. (It is fully expected that a class will attempt the recognize trick on at least one PKT) The ones who chose to write "Recognize 2010" on their PKTs were not disobeying an order, but simply contributing their part to their class's recognition. The ones who did not write Recognize 2010 were in fact the ones that were at fault. They let their classmates down and defied the request that had been put into place before the PKT began that evening. </p>
<p>Acta non verba . . . actions speak louder then words, the actions of those who did write in the common answer proved to the RTOA that they were ready to be recognized. The ones who did not write in the common answer proved that they are not willing to be recognized and still want to think for themselves as opposed to what is the best for the group. Their combined actions spoke loud and clear to the RTOA that the class is not functioning as ONE yet, and therefore not ready to be recognized, and only adding to the reoccurring theme that they still have a lot of work ahead of them.</p>
<p>KP10's mom, just to clarify...
the RTO did not give us a direct order not to do it. it was more of an "i advise you" kinda thing. thus we did not disobey an order, we just stood firm... well some of us... word has it that only 4 people from band co stood up and continued to go through with it.
while there were several in every other company that did the same, it's highly disappointing to see a whole company crumble from the possibility of an IT session. lame...</p>
<p>put it this way........instead of using a trick to pass an easy pkt how about you just pass it. in case you haven't noticed we have been passing them just fine without any tricks.</p>
<p>WYTL, OK thanks for clarification. I do understand it. I am getting conflicting messages here on the matter but that is the way I have understood it. </p>
<p>ggspin, it isn't about passing an easy pkt, it is about being such a group that all of you are unified into doing something that most of you are uncomfortable with doing. Yes, you have been passing them just fine without any tricks and you will just keep on passing them. They however are looking for something more...........</p>
<p>yeah they are looking for something different. every other class has done this so therefore there is nothing different about us doing it. they don't want us to do this because that will make us just like everyone else which we are not.</p>
<p>well at this point it didn't work and they won't accept it on the second go around, atleast I don't think so. I am not for sure if it would or wouldn't have worked the first time around but that is academic now isn't it? </p>
<p>So it is time for the leaders of the group to come up with something really cool, cutting edge and get 100% backing from the group. There is no point at this time arguing the point of whether it would have worked or not. It is rolling up your sleeves time and getting to work on an innovative idea. It won't be easy but I think it could be done before Christmas.</p>
<p>here's an idea just pass the damn thing</p>
<p>ggspin:</p>
<p>i could be wrong, but i dont think the pkt is the issue. they were just looking for a way to prove that they had united as a class, and happened to do it on the pkt. they werent looking for an easy way out. do correct me if i am wrong on this though. thats just what i am getting from the previous posts</p>
<p>What # PKT are y'all on. Is it still 10 that have to be passed?</p>