<p>heh.......</p>
<p>DHA: I know how you feel.</p>
<p><em>Sigh</em></p>
<p>Hey.</p>
<p>I qualified for HFAI, and got in. </p>
<p>DHA_3000: "Well, when you work a 30 hr/wk job, take a disgusting amount of APs, do well in standardized tests, and create a program to naturalize latin american immigrants and still get rejected, then it becomes that bigot school. There is a huge difference between a 17,000 income, and a 35-40,000 a year one. And they both qualify for HFAI."</p>
<p>I'm not going to talk about what I've gone through because I don't regret it. As Ben Folds said, "Bein poor was not such a drag in hindsight." Mm, I like Ben Folds. </p>
<p>From my experiences with Harvard, they seem to really care about the students. Leading up to EA, I emailed about 10 schools asking about my incredibly complicated financial aid situation. Harvard responded quickly, and were the only ones who were willing to work with me. In fact, I even got a name, while the other ones were signed "FA Office." One other highly selective school simply said "Hi. Our Website contains a lot of information blah blah. Thanks..."</p>
<p>DHA, I would like to encourage you. I'm sorry you got rejected, really sorry. I hope you the best with the rest of your college search.</p>
<p>same here. low income= deferral. there appears to be a correlation. lol</p>
<p>I was also qualified for HFAI and I was accepted.</p>
<p>DHA's letter was utter BS. Should have gotten in!</p>
<p>"low income= deferral "</p>
<p>Bull-*<strong><em>. Low Scores= deferral. I'm low-income and I got in. I got a 2100 on the SAT on my first practice test time w/o prep, too. I just did all the practice tests and I got a 2340-2350 --- I don't even remember. It's not THAT hard, for god's sake. I go to a decent school, work 30 hours a week, overcame an illness, and, get this, in real life, I'm not such an *</em></strong><strong><em>! I just come here to vent. I "fake it 'till I make it." Harvard is so *</em></strong>ing stupid for accepting me. KILL CRIMSON!</p>
<p>People right now are wanting to find a reason they were deferred/rejected. Low income = deferral is a very good reason to "blame", because its something you can't change. Instead of low test scores = deferral, low gpa = deferral, bad interview = deferral, or some other thing which are you in control of....it looks pretty nice to try to say you were deferred because of something over which you have no control.</p>
<p>i agree. EAS.
what you say is absolutely true.</p>
<p>(oh no. i am killing another thread. now no one will reply to this thread :( )</p>
<p>EAS is being sarcastic . MANY low-income students such as myself did get in. I had quite a few tip-factors that I didn't feel like posting along with amazing academic stats. I do agree with Byerly, though. I think that if you were low-income but you weren't ungodly amazing or had a pile of hooks and or tip-factors that you were probably deferred so that they could compare you to the rest of the RD low-income applicants and thus submit the best ones.</p>
<p>i dont think EAS is being sarcastic.
what he said may not apply to you but it applies to some people.
if you dont get in, blame it on your financial situation.
this is so so so wrong.
i mean if i dont get in (which is very likely) i will not go around saying that harvard rejected me coz i was poor. (which i am not. but my family isnt filthy rich either.)
rejection is a big reality of life.
dont find a scapegoat.
face it.
this is just like a
guy rejected by girl saying, "she isnt my type".</p>
<p>whatever. (yipee. i didnt kill the thread.)</p>
<p>Semperspiro- if you read my post, I'm not saying no low income students got in. Instead, I'm saying low-income students might blame their defferals/rejections on something they can't change- their income. Obvi not everyone is, but as a generalization, its a nice scapegoat. </p>
<p>Just like white males are saying they didn't get in because they don't get AA, Asians are saying they didn't get in because they are the wrong type of minority, and minorities are saying they didn't get in because they're not legacies.</p>
<p>I see posts all the time on this board about "I know a black with low SATs who got in but my white cousin was rejected. ITS SO UNFAIR."</p>
<p>Basically no one wants to think about the fact that <em>their performance and application</em> is the real reason.</p>
<p>*LOL</p>
<p>PS- I'm female!</p>
<p>I actually agree with you for once, EAS! Some people are lucky and do get an edge in admissions, but instead of getting upset about it and trying to find "hooks and tipfactors" that don't exist in the first place is a waste. For class of 2007 (HS) --- Spend time working on your grades, test scores, and ECS instead of spending all day 24/7 on this site.--- BE YOURSELF... Like NSM said, almost 85% of applicants are academically qualified to go to Harvard, but it comes down to what you do out of the classroom and your personal qualities.</p>
<p>SemperSpero- Maybe you'd agree with me more often if you understood my posts...like my original post was not sarcastic at all.</p>
<p>*LOL</p>
<p>Your original post sounded like you supported people using low-income as an excuse for not getting in, when simply, you were stating the facts. I read "it does sound better" or whatever you wrote and I think that's what threw me off. Certainly a well-educated intelligent individual such as yourself wouldn't believe that one didn't get into Harvard because one was poor and black. However, many people (especially in hoods and the mid-west) would.</p>
<p>sorry, DHA, your scores are too low. it sucks, but move on. there are a ton of great schools out there!</p>
<p>DHA, im really sorry about your rejection.</p>
<p>having said that, with all due respect, you now have to get over yourself. you didnt get rejected because of your financial situation, nor is harvard a bigot institution. you're just not right for each other. as a previous poster said, you really do sound like u have a big chip on your shoulder. you sounded very arrogant in nearly all of your posts + you tend to brag about your hardships in life. if i was an adcom, i definitely would NOT admit a person like that. now, whether i would have flat-out rejected you is another story.... </p>
<p>so, i suggest that you stop posting on the harvard thread, compile your other applications, and... live a little!!!</p>
<p>maybe it just sucks when you know you fight everyday for what you believe in and love, and work so hard to get past financial obstacles/etc, and then to see your crazy rich prep-school friend who has had it easy their whole life and who doesn't do sh** get accepted. i mean, i like my friend. but...harvard? come on...</p>
<p>it just... stings.</p>
<p>Okay, I'm over my "take over Harvard" phase. Now, I hear alot of people saying DHA didn't get in due to his scores. This is not so. MusikAznGirl (sorry, not picking on you... you're just a great example of "test scores don't matter") got a 490 on one of her SAT IIs. She was accepted. And, she is Asian. So, perfection and high qualifications like these won't necessarily get you in. She must have caught their eye (maybe she is talented in something or wrote a touching essay?)</p>
<p>Now, this HFAI thing is fairly new, so I think they deferred alot of us because they wanted to compare us overall. So, I'm just submitting a new essay (I look like a smart ass in my first) and a journalistic piece to the Crimson editors for review (I think I'm pretty good). So, maybe I'll have some luck. Now, lets enjoy the Christmas season (Holidays if you want to say that) and settle down. <em>relaxes</em></p>
<p>One of her SAT II scores was low. Her SAT I scores and the rest of her SAT II scores (if I remember correctly) were higher than his... By about 100 points or so.</p>
<p>And...?</p>
<p>Her SAT II was still below a 500. There are cases of people with 500 scores on the SAT I getting in. Also, DHA's 500 score was in writing which they aren't counting. So, I don't think it was the scores. He's definately qualified to do the work and deserves it, but he has this (and, DHA, you're still cool, man) abrasive personality. If you just look at his personality first sight, you cringe. But, if you were to get to know him better, he's a pretty cool guy. That's how it was when I first met him on here. So, perhaps that little bit had something to do with it.</p>