<p>Hi everyone,</p>
<p>I'm new to the site but was wondering if you could give me some advice. I go to a large state school and have a 3.9 GPA in a tough program, but I keep on getting low scores on my practice LSATs (154ish). My GPA is solid and I have great recs and credentials, but do you think I have a shot at a top 15 law school assuming my LSAT score stays the same?</p>
<p>Thanks.</p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>If you are having problems with the LSAT get a power scores book and keep practicing, unless you are a URM there is almost no chance of getting in to any of your target schools.</p>
<p>Sorry but even with a 3.9 you have no chance at a T14 without atleast something in the mid 160’s.</p>
<p>Ya no chance, especially considering you go to a large state school which I am assuming is Mizzou, very common application, high GPA from easy large state school with a low LSAT, definetly reject at Top 25 with that LSAT, if you get it in the 162+ range you might have a shot at one of the schools in the Top 25, but still a reach.</p>
<p>Yeah, agreed. A 154 is not likely to get you in, even if everything else about you is amazing. There’s always a chance, but if you apply to a T15 you should realize it’s basically like buying a lottery ticket. Make sure you have a plan B you’ll be happy with–either a lower-ranked law school or a different job/graduate program.</p>
<p>I have a friend whose qualifications were like yours, but her LSAT was several points higher and she had 3 years of good, relevant work experience. She was waitlisted everywhere except one top-30 program, and hasn’t gotten off any waitlists.</p>
<p>so wut about the opposite case, not quite decent GPA, say 3.5+, and relatively high LSAT, 173ish.</p>
<p>Anyone with one good and one bad out of the GPA/LSAT combo is referred to as a splitter. I’m not an expert, but I would say that people with a good LSAT/decent GPA tend to do better than the good GPA/bad LSAT (someone feel free to correct me here).</p>
<p>Regardless, that does not matter in the hypothetical situation you proposed because, in my opinion, a 3.5 sounds a lot better than a 154.</p>
<p>A 173 and 3.5 would definitely land you a spot somewhere in the T14, possibly even as high as an NYU (I heard LSAT splitters do well in their law school admissions).</p>
<p>oh thanks roneald! that’s a relief! my school’s grading system sucks, it just doesnt have A+, but it has A and A-, B+, B, B-, etc.</p>
<p>According to LSD’s (in my opinion overly picky) terminology:</p>
<p>Splitter: GPA < 3.0, LSAT > 170.
“Reverse” Splitter: GPA > 3.8, LSAT < 160.</p>
<p>Reverse splitters do poorly; splitters do unpredictably but can usually snag a high-profile acceptance or two.</p>
<p>Would a reverse splitter still do poorly if their high GPA came from a prestigious or notoriously difficult school?</p>
<p>Yes .</p>
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<p>Both undergraduate institution and major are soft factors.</p>
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<p>Don’t worry, it’s just not a big deal.</p>
<p>Th efcat u score so poorly in lsat prollly means ur program aint so tough</p>
<p>You do realize these posts you are replying to are over a year old? And are you drunk or something?</p>