<p>Sooo seeing as this was posted four years ago, I’m guessing OP already chose a major…</p>
<p>Sergio, I have an idea, how about you stop being an ignorant little prick and open your eyes. If you claim you have any intelligence, you should know that everyone has different interests and skills. So how about apologizing to everyone you offended?</p>
<p>What an insult to suggest that only the “math” side of the brain dictates intelligence. Beyond ridiculous. So someone who can get A’s in biology, computers, english, journalism, ethics and so forth, but finds math to be a stress assault to the point physical suffering, is stupid. You need to grow up - you apparently have much to learn about life.</p>
<p>Math has to do with memory of multitudes of bits of dull facts. Understanding it and remembering it are two different things. But if you think knowing the Pythagorean Formula will bring you a successful and happy life, have at it.</p>
<p>True genius is achieved through unique vision and creativity - “thinking outside the box”. Math junkies are totally stuck “inside the box”.</p>
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<p>Not that it measures intelliegence, but Math/Econ majors are shown to score higher on the LSAT than almost every other major. I suppose this can reflect that those majors tend to develop individuals who are logical?</p>
<p>if money is what you really are concerned about, then you need to think like an entrepreneur. you will probably never become wealthy selling hours of labor unless maybe you work in investment banking or real estate. you need to think like a business person - sell something, start a business, buy property, stuff like that. find ways to grow money while you are not working</p>
<p>To my knowledge there is no such thing as a major that requires no math.</p>
<p>There are several. In fact of most schools did not have a minimum General Education requirement for a quantitative course, then more than a few Theatre Arts or Library Sciences majors would skate through their careers without cracking open a Statistics book or Mathematical Reasoning text.</p>
<p>Yeah? I had a Fine Arts person in one of my Calculus classes. She was mad they were making her take 2 math courses to graduate. It’s typically part of the general education requirements, was my point.</p>
<p>I would say if that person is in Calculus (I or II), they had a pretty **** poor advisor. There are math courses that are pretty much only in existence for people who do NOT like/need/require math and are structured so that they can get through with (in theory) minimal stress. </p>
<p>Of course, that class at our campus is a Math Reasoning course, which has students doing things that one might find in a discrete (logic) mathematics course. Oftentimes it’s just easier to get it over with and take an Algebra II or Statistics and get it out of the way.</p>
<p>Just writing to say I got a B+ in ENGL101 and an A in Advanced Calculus (pretty much the “fundamental” proof course for all math majors)</p>
<p>Also, no one hires people who are “smart”, they hire people with quality experience. That’s kind of why Engineering > Math imo</p>
<p>EDIT: Everything Greekfire said</p>
<p>I know this is a really, really old thread, but this was one of the most obnoxious, arrogant posts I’ve ever seen.
That is extremely offensive and elitist of you to say. Just as some have a natural propensity for math, some do not. For you to call people that don’t like/aren’t good at math “dumb as stones” is obnoxious. I may not be good at math, but I know damn well I am not “a moron who is incapable of higher level thought” and I have the common decency not to disparage anyone because they aren’t as good at something as me. Being good with numbers does not make you better than anyone else, and it doesn’t give you the right to look down on them or make sweeping generalizations about their intellect based on their struggles with understanding complex mathematical concepts. It means your brain is programmed to be able to deal with numbers quickly and without much confusion. Logic ≠ mathematics. Many lawyers don’t take math beyond high school, and their job is very demanding in terms of complex logical thought.
Math has never “clicked” for me like it does others but I have tried hard at it and always maintained A’s in the subject. The person asking this question was simply asking about high paying majors that weren’t math-based. It wasn’t an invitation to share your snobby thoughts on the “bottom feeders of the intelligence hierarchy.” Calling others stupid doesn’t make you any smarter, it just makes you look like an a-hole.</p>
<p>The DSM recognizes dyscalculia…as does the the world…dyscalculafourm.com. Albert Einstein had dyscalculia…was he not a genius?</p>
<p>dyscalculiafourm.com…lets educate the world…Albert Einstein was a dyscalculic…spread the word.</p>
<p>People who divide everything into “math” and “nonmath” will always suck at math.</p>
<p>Just treat math as a set of tools you use for other subjects and you’ll be good at it.</p>
<p>BTW, SergioValencia would not do very well in a cognitive science or philosophy class.</p>
<p>wow I happened to stumble across this thread and I have to say that Sergio,whatever his name is has to be one of the most conceited individuals out there. Because somebody is not a mathematician they are inherently less intelligent? I am calling BULL*****. When you interview somebody and they don’t like math they are “dumb as stones”, wow.
I never liked math that much so I just took what i needed from it and moved on, am I of lesser intelligence than my math major buddies? No. We just find different things appealing. I find that looking at math proofs make my head hurt while they find that analyzing the structure of proteins and complex molecules overwhelming.</p>
<p>Math correlates with intelligence because it requires excellent logical and analytic skills. You need to be able to take a problem that might be totally unfamiliar and deduce why it’s true or untrue from the things you do know. On top of that, it requires interpreting complex statements, breaking them down to their essential parts, and seeing the connections between those parts and between other known statements. You can be intelligent and bad at math, but it’s hard to be good at math and be unintelligent. </p>
<p>Also, most of the people in this thread bashing math tend to be really obnoxious. Same with most people I’ve met who claim to “hate math”. Not people who aren’t good at math, or people who don’t enjoy it - people who HATE it. If you can’t even appreciate why the subject is vitally important, then I think it’s fair to call you unintelligent.</p>
<p>There’s also a couple of specific posts I want to respond to: One person said that logic =/= mathematics.That’s just flat out wrong. ALL of mathematics is based directly on logic. Proofs are just logical deductions, so whenever you’re doing math, you’re engaging in rigorous logical thinking. Trying to separate the two is completely nonsensical. And to the guy who said Albert Einstein had dyscalculia: He had mastered calculus by the time he was fifteen. The idea that he failed math in school is an urban legend.</p>
<p>There are people that hate math but are good at it. For instance, my girlfriend. She’d never dream of majoring in math and is double majoring in art/psychology. </p>
<p>But yes, there are a lot of dumb people out there who can’t do simple arithmetic. Being able to do it and disliking it is entirely different from not being able to do it and hating it. </p>
<p>I find chemistry more difficult than math and I dislike chemistry. Do I appreciate it? Yes, after taking organic chemistry and surviving. I do not hate it, I just do no enjoy it.</p>
<p>I think the key difference here is dislike vs. hate. It’s possible to have a very strong dislike of a subject and still appreciate it, but if you say you hate something you’re basically saying that it’s worthless. Maybe it’s just semantics, but I would never say I “hate” any serious subject, even one that I couldn’t stand to study myself. </p>
<p>I also can’t stand the implication by some people that mathematics takes less creativity than other disciplines. If you want to study math (actually study it, not just use it for other purposes) on any serious level, you have to be extremely creative in order to solve problems. Not to mention the level of creativity required to be able to actually invent new mathematics.</p>
<p>My gripe with math has to do with it being about numbers and not real life things. If it is a problem that involves things, people, and resources- I am much more interested. If math is just problem solving with different variables that each have it’s own rules and constraints and ways to approach them, then why do people good at math get all the intelligence credit? People in business who have to solve problems all day are very intelligent, too. People who can understand and attempt to solve complex global political problems are intelligent too. They have to understand the political policies of different nations and the complex nature of global politics. I could give many more examples.</p>