High Point University NC - others like it?

<p>Hi,</p>

<p>We've visited High Point a couple of times and were impressed by their philosophy. Our daughter wants a reasonably small liberal arts school (warm weather is a plus but NC is her geographical limit) where she can try a variety of things and hopefully find her niche. We'd like to find a few more schools that have a similiar feel - any suggestions? </p>

<p>High Point seems to have a large out of state enrollment and it seems very self contained. Class sizes are small and they seem to go out of their way to help students. They have invested a lot of money in the school - campus, teachers, programs, etc. </p>

<p>Help please :)</p>

<p>Rightfit, not exactly warm, but worth a look are Susquehanna and Ursinus in PA. Also, Bridgewater in VA and Gardner Webb, Catawba and Lenoir Ryne in NC. Hope this helps.</p>

<p>Elon is a MUCH MUCH better school. Look their first if you have the scores.</p>

<p>Thanks for the suggestions poi - we visited Catawba and she didn't care for the school. We've been to Ursinus too and I think that school has a similiar feel to High Point. Academically I think its harder to get into and the cost is a factor, it's pricey for a liberal arts program. Seafoodlover - we also visited Elon and thought there were some positve things about the campus but she liked High Point more. What makes you say Elon is a much better school?</p>

<p>Elon and High Point are not even in the same league. Literally and figuratively. </p>

<p>Elon attracts TOP students and High Point for the most part attracts students with more modest scores. </p>

<p>Elon has a better reputation that is growing nationally. For example, its communications department is stellar and they regularly place graduates at places like ESPN and CNN.</p>

<p>Its getting very tough to get into Elon, as it is now highly competitive. </p>

<p>But if High Point is where your daughter wants to go and sees herself being happy, that is fine. I am just saying that Elon is much more prestigious and has stronger programs across the board. Elon has one of the highest percentages of kids studying overseas. They really emphasize that at Elon.</p>

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<p>Rightfit, it sounds like your daughter has really enjoyed her visits at High Point and feels comfortable there. Have you considered Wilkes (PA)? I don't know anything about the school but a family on one of our tours was raving about it. It may be worth a look.</p>

<p>Longwood in VA</p>

<p>Guilford, Hendrix.</p>

<p>Guilford is a warm school with probably a brighter group of students than High Point. It is also in the "colleges that change lives" book.</p>

<p>Thanks for the suggestions - we did a very short Greensboro College visit but I don't think we've seen Guilford yet so we'll add that to the list. We already have one son going to school in NC so we're starting to know our way around.</p>

<p>Is Hendrix in Arkansas or is there another school with a similar name?</p>

<p>Longwood and Wilkes are new suggestions so we'll check them out.</p>

<p>High Point has an appeal because they seem to have a focus on the whole person and helping students figure themselves out and succeed. It helps that the campus is beautiful and very student oriented. We're not looking for the "top" school - we're looking for a school that's a good fit. Right now High Point tops that list..... we just need a longer list.</p>

<p>rightfit, what did you think of Greensboro?</p>

<p>Also, don't most schools pay lip service to "the whole" student? What do you look for as evidence of more than just a throw-away line (like "quality education")?</p>

<p>rightfit, Hendrix is in Arkansas.</p>

<p>Have any of you looked into Queens U. of Charlotte in NC?</p>

<p>High Point is noted for being very student oriented with Nido Qubein as its President, he is a much in demand public speaker. Its its the right fit for your daughter and she likes it then go there. Too many kids pick schools for prestige without looking at whether its the best school for their success both in college or in life.</p>

<p>nyc - my mistake - my husband says we saw Guilford, not Greensboro. We're seen so many they start to blend together.</p>

<p>The whole person question - it's hard to answer and I agree most schools use that line in some way, shape or form. High Point seemed to be paying a lot of attention to the students and they had several things in place to be sure students didn't fall through the cracks. They also seemed to build on old fashioned values and they expect the students to follow them too. I don't think its a match for everyone - in some ways it seems too together. At the same time it has a certain appeal and we haven't found many other colleges (in warm weather areas) like it.</p>

<p>Rightfit, don't know about your D, but for my S, looking at the geneds, which I beleive are seem more common among southern schs than those in the NE, was very helpful. On that basis, he crossed Susquehana off the list ("hard" geneds) and is now considering Guilford (fewer or more flex geneds) more seriously.</p>

<p>Some other schools that have been suggested for S which you might want to consider:</p>

<ul>
<li><p>Goucher (esp good for boys); Roanoke, Loyola, McDaniel and St. Mary's (only 17% oos), all of which I believe are in VA.</p></li>
<li><p>Wittenberg, Earlham and College of Wooster, all in the Mid-West.</p></li>
</ul>

<p>I haven't thoroughtly researched or visited many of these schools, but they were rec'd by friends who know S as schs that would be good choices for him.</p>

<p>McDaniel is in MD. There are several Loyola schools (I think one is somewhere in MD, and the other I think is in Chicago). I am not familiar with St. Marys (are you talking about the Honors college in MD?). Goucher seems to emphasize study abroad, so if your kid is not into that I don't know how the fit will be. We are interested in all of the midwestern schools that you listed, nyc, plus some others (OWU, Allegheny, Otterbein, Marietta, Hiram, University of Dayton).</p>

<p>nyc, you and I are currently looking at many of the same schools as we shop. BTW, Wittenberg only meets about 85% of need on average, and OWU only meets about 81% of need on average. I don't know about Hiram. The others all meet at least 90% of need on average (those are: Marietta, COW, Earlham, and Allegheny). Don't know about U of Dayton (did not check it out yet).</p>

<p>Also in NC...Meredith College (all female but literally a few blocks away from NC State U. so there are plenty of guys around) in Raleigh. Queens in Charlotte is where another poster, Candace has a D planning to attend so you could PM her for more info.<br>
Other privates in NC are Campbell University, Barton College, Wingate University, Mars Hill College, Lees-McRae College, Montreat College. These are all in less populated areas without easy accsessibility to large airports if that is a factor. UNC Greensboro is a state u. bit not terribly large.</p>

<p>Packmom, do you know the surrounding area of Queens? I assume that it is in Charlotte, but I have no idea.</p>

<p>Yes, Queens University is right in the middle of Charlotte (versus out on the edge in a suburb). It is in a beautiful part of town known as Myers Park. It is an old residential neighborhood with very nice large houses and tree lined streets with some shops and restaurants scattered through. It is a busy part of town but pretty safe by big city standards.</p>