<p>2370 SAT (800Math 800CR 770Wr)
4.0W-4.15W (by 7th semester) about (3.5-3.6 uw)
SAT II Math IIC, Physics, and US expecting 770+
No class rank, but top 10% (if I had to estimate 8-9%)
African American
Very competitive public (aka 90+% to 4 yr colleges)
Junior yr sched 5 AP's
Senior yr sched 4 AP's (3 math/sci+ap eng)
Expecting NMSF and Natl Achievement SF(226 PSAT in NJ) and AP scholar awards</p>
<p>Quiz Bowl Team member-highly ranked team that always goes to nationals (2 years)
Tutoring (2 years I put a lot of time into this)
Italian NHS (VP now Pres next yr)
Habitat for Humanity (3 yrs)
Chess Team (2 yrs)
NHS (starting next yr)
Orchestra (2 yrs)
Copious Volunteering- Started in Middle School Really
Summer of 2006-Traveled to Nigeria
Summer of 2007-Chemical engineering research at reputable university</p>
<p>Without a doubt Columbia2002 is going to wail on you saying you should either way till the Columbia 2012 forum starts or read the stickies for this year. One of the things this forum taught me is that there is no set formula or standard for admissions. Yes you have beastly stats and the so called affirmative action on your side, but unfortunately, the Class of 2012 will be without a doubt, the most selective year for schools of all time. I know that sounds pretty grand, and I know people will be skeptical about this, but you will soon see articles stating that the senior year children of the Baby Boomers will max out during your year, making the pool larger than it was or ever will be. However, I still think you don't have much to worry about. Research how to make good application essays and do a sport if you haven't already. Peace</p>
<p>I think the OP has a very very good chance. Black + very good stats makes you almost a lock.</p>
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<p>No, asking about your chances is a legit question. Asking "please post your stats if you go to Columbia" is not. You aren't very good with nuance.</p>
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<p>Terrible advice. He's a junior. Doing a sport now if he hasn't already isn't going to help him one bit.</p>
<p>Asking about chances is not a legit question because every day the members of this forum realizes through anecdotes that there is no such thing as a "lock." Black or not, noone can tell him whether he is good enough or not, especially if they got in before 2000. Just keep up the good work, Burger :P. Make an essay on that episode of Grim Adventures.</p>
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<p>Reread my post. I said "almost a lock," not "lock." It's impossible to predict these things with 100% accuracy, but people with experience can make reasonable predictions.</p>
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<p>People can tell him that his stats put him in the upper crust of the applicant pool. And people can tell him that black applicants in engineering get a major bump. And people can synthesize those two facts to make a prediction about his chances.</p>
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especially if they got in before 2000.
<p>I know its a strong GPA, but not really strong admist 3.9x and 4.0 uw abound. I also heard a lot about the fact that this next year is going to be hard as hell. BT-hah you know what fredfredburger is.</p>
<p>I had VERY similar stats with slightly better grades, and no Affirmative Action on my side, and I got in.
You have as good of a chance as anyone, but that said, nothing is ever 100% in Ivy League admissions.</p>
<p>Its revelant because you think you getting into Columbia makes you a higher authority, when in reality, anyone in my general age group wouldve gotten in during your time. I thought this was already proven in that recent thread?</p>
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<p>No, getting into Columbia doesn't make me an authority on Columbia admissions. What makes me competent to discuss Columbia admissions includes my interactions with many many Columbia students and alumni about admissions matters, my many conversations with Columbia adcoms, my 5 years of being a Columbia interviewer, etc.. I'm not an expert, but I have good knowledge of the process based on those experiences.</p>
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<p>Again, getting into Columbia isn't want makes one competent to speak on Columbia admissions.</p>
<p>And I'm not sure if "anyone . . . wouldve gotten in during your time" is hyperbole or pure ignorance.</p>
<p>Anyone meaning anyone on this forum. Looking at the stats, pretty much everyone on this forum has at least 1900 SAT (me) with the average being 2100 or so. Everyone also has at least a 3.5 GPA or so. So yea, either hyperbole or ignorance. You decide.</p>
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Looking at the stats, pretty much everyone on this forum has at least 1900 SAT (me) with the average being 2100 or so. Everyone also has at least a 3.5 GPA or so. So yea, either hyperbole or ignorance. You decide.
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<p>You cannot be serious to think anyone with a 3.5 GPA and a 1266 SAT (1900 * 2/3 to convert to old scale) would have gotten into Columbia in 1999.</p>
<p>.......I dont understand it. I just said twice that a 1266 around here is the minimum and that most people on this forum is somewhere around a 1400. I said twice that this is a generalization that though does not apply to everyone, applies to most. Why would you pick the minimum score to counter my argument? Unless you misunderstood my diction because I can understand that and would apologize.</p>
<p>Will you two cut it out? Seriously, go to PMs or something, stop polluting every single thread.</p>
<p>Fred - you look like a very strong applicant. The extracurricular achievements in particular are your leverage to stand out here. The only advice I can offer is, treat Columbia like a girlfriend. Make it very clear that you want her and only her, and give her good reasons. As an ED applicant, you would be very, very strong - as an RD, they'll want to see evidence of character or deep thinking in your essay, and well-thought-out reasons in your why-Columbia blurb.</p>
<p>a 3.5 UW GPA, given the weights (and assuming you've taken the hardest available courseload), will not kill you. it's clear you're a hardworking guy. What would make a substantial difference would be A) applying ED, B) winning one of those things you're nationally competitive in, or C) getting As the rest of this year and the first semester senior year. any of those 3 may be enough.</p>
<p>Seriously though, it seems you have little to worry about - ur stats are great etc etc (I don't need to repeat what everyone is telling you)</p>
<p>Btw Twizzy, I hope you do appreciate Columbia2002's meaning on that previous post you made. Maybe he didn't write it in the right way, but essentially what he said was quite true :P</p>
<p>I'm not taking sides on this one - I'm scared of the both of you! :P</p>