High school GPA at brown

<p>i already know this is a pretty stupid question but im gonna ask it neway…i was just wondering if there were ne success stories of ppl who got into Brown with a 3.6ish high school gpa (no legacy)</p>

<p>i slacked off alot nd now that ive finally woken up im tryin to find hope lol…please be honest btw lol</p>

<p>3.6 is kind of low (for Brown), but it could happen. Any of the following situations would help a lot, especially in combination:</p>

<p>--if your school was particularly competitive / difficult (Bs are common)
--there is a strong upward trend (slacked off a little freshman year, but did really well in hard courses later on like calculus)
--you took the most difficult curriculum offered at your school
--you have very strong AP scores
--you have a note from your counselor explaining any particularly low grades (C's due to illness, family events, etc)</p>

<p>I have horrible AP scores (two 2s, one 3, and one 4) but I am in IB and my IB test scores are great (one 6 and one 5). My GPA is a 4.0 and basically everything is great except my APs. Will this hurt me?</p>

<p>well i do go to a county school which is really selective and really hard...and i take one of the hardest curriculums available...all honors classes nd ill graduate with about 7 aps (thats basically the most I can take with how my schedule works at my school).</p>

<p>btw thanks for the reply ILoveBrown</p>

<p>ridpat- just don't report your AP scores</p>

<p>bkm, if youre in hardest courses at a good school with a 3.6uw, you should be fine. just do well on sats and I really think you will be in good shape, at least academically</p>

<p>As someone with a 3.63uw awaiting my decision, I have to disagree. Within my current class rank interval (6th - 10th percent), only 80 of 1,060 are accepted. Even though most of my poor grades are in freshman year (I have had a 3.8uw overall since soph and each yr has been better than the last), I have a hard time believing that Brown is anywhere near realistic for anyone like me. I figure b/w ED, URMs, legacies, athletes, and development candidates, it is highly conceivable that ZERO Caucasians/Asians are accepted Regular Decision with that kind of GPA/rank.</p>

<p>The only way I could see people digging their way out of this is if they attend a school that is private and/or (preferably "and") does not rank. I don't even think SAT scores are a viable excuse; too many people have both.</p>

<p>Having a ~3.6 GPA puts you in a good range to be considered for other factors. If you don't have any special hook, talents, awesome extracurriculars, etc, then it's pretty unlikely that you'll get admitted. However, stambliark41 and bkm10, if there's something that makes your application really stand out, then you'll be considered right along all the 4.0/1600 applicants (...oops... it's 2400 now, isn't it? <em>old lady voice</em> in myyyy day...)</p>

<p>ILoveBrown, I do have a 1600/1600 (no 2400 though...) and a couple things that may help me stand out. Still, I am becoming more and more convinced that the numbers regarding rank are impenetrable. I have started to think that is near impossible to be accepted to Brown from a public school w/o top 5% rank. However, my decision will be up Thurs, so hopefully I can prove you right and myself wrong. :)</p>

<p>You're probably right about URMS and athletes and legacies taking most of the spots, stambliark. But I imagine they do admit a few of us regular folk (for the sake of making the college quasi normal, if nothing else), and I'd guess that with a 1600 you're right in the top of the pile they're considering.</p>

<p>o alrite...im new to this site so thanks for the help guys.</p>

<p>stambliark41...do u think u can post whether u got in or not just so i can try and gauge my chances? (i understand thats private info so i understand if u dont want to)</p>

<p>thanks again for the posts guys</p>

<p>In your opinion, do you think the admissions committee focuses more on GPA or SAT/ACT statistically? I am South Asian and my culture/hertitage definitely shows through my essays (hoping thats a good thing)...do you think that could set me apart from other non-asian applicants and possibly give me an edge?</p>

<p>nesa1188 -- The Brown admissions people definitely focus more on your high school record than on test scores.</p>

<p>If your cultural heritage is important to you and it comes through in your essays, that's definitely a good thing. Lots of people write about their race / ethnicity / nationality, so I'm not sure if it would give you an "edge," but Brown is definitely looking for passionate people from interesting backgrounds, so if this comes through in your application, then it could only be good for you.</p>

<p>I'm just glad Brown reads all essays, PLME and everything, before deciding to admit to undergrad as well. I think my PLME essays are better than the main essays I did for most other colleges.</p>

<p>Thank you IloveBrown...who knows...if I get in I might be able to thank you in person! YAY BROWN!</p>

<p>How do you find out if your high school ranks?</p>

<p>When I received my transcript after junior year, I noticed that none of the grades were weighted, and there was no class rank on it anywhere. Does that mean that they send out the same transcript, with unweighted GPA and no class rank? Or is it possible my school does rank and weight GPA, but doesn't show these things to the students on their "take-home" version transcripts?</p>

<p>Talk to your counselor. He or she will explain exactly how your high school's policy works.</p>

<p>Some schools don't weight grades and / or don't rank. Your school might be one of them. Another possibility is that they don't weight grades and / or rank until some point during your senior year, in which case the transcript you received after your junior year isn't exactly what colleges will see.</p>

<p>For example, my school did not weight or rank, but what they did do was send with each transcript a list of the GPAs of every student in our class, in order, without names. A small arrow would point to the applicant's GPA. The college could then determine rank or percentile if they wished to, and they would also see the entire spread of grades of the class. However, the students never saw this spread -- we were only told what section of what quarter we were in (as in, top of the first quarter, middle of the third quarter, etc). However, this is pretty unusual... and I'm not sure why I just explained it here...</p>

<p>anyway, moral of the story is, ask your counselor. And don't worry if your school doesn't weight grades -- the college will know that and take into account the difficulty of the classes you've taken when looking at your GPA.</p>