<p>Hey guys, I'm rising high school sophomore in NC. I really want to go to UNC summer school during summer '09. When I'll be a rising Junior. I realize the site says rising seniors on the honor roll but, I'm hoping they'll make an exception... I have contacted them. I'm a dually enrolled student so I may be able to qualify as a visiting student.</p>
<p>Here's my situation: I'll be taking AP Calculus BC this year, and I'd like a really cool summer experience and to take some courses to get a head start on college.</p>
<p>I'd like to take:
Session I: MAT 233 & MAT 381
Session II: MAT 383 & MAT 547 </p>
<p>or </p>
<p>Sessions I: MAT 233 & MAT 381
Sessions II: MAT 383 & 533</p>
<p>The difference is this: </p>
<p>MAT 383 is listed as First Course in Differential Equations in the summer school book, and Linear Algebra and Differential Equations by the math department. If it is the latter, I would rather have number theory than a deeper understanding of linear algebra for modeling... which is not the prerequisite for linear algebra.</p>
<p>This will cost $3470 for the courses and for housing. How much would a meal plan be? </p>
<p>What do the CCer tar heels think about this?</p>
<p>LOL I started to anticipate this reply when I saw the thread "Is a 200 level class too high for a [Carolina] freshman?" Is anyone here a Carolina Math major or taken any of these courses?</p>
<p>I also did the dual enrollment program and had like 2 of my friends do all the maths there was(Calc 1,2,3,diff.) And they were seniors.
Why are you taking these classes at such an early age? Maybe your a precocious individual, but,nevertheless, you should relax a bit and start worrying about your SATS and your E.C.'s.</p>
<p>I'm not worried about my SATs or my ECs. :) There's nothing I could do about them by worrying either. </p>
<p>Maybe I'd like to take these classes at an early age... :) I don't think my age should matter.... It's not very rare for (CC) people to do Cal 3 and diff. eq their Junior/Senior year... but I'd like to get to a higher level of math. LOL It would certainly free up some space for a good number of majors.</p>
<p>i dunno..my boyfriend took calc 3 and diff eq. this year as a sophomore and he struggled considerably, as have pretty much everyone else i know in those classes..i'd advise you to at least scale it down to only one of those math classes per summer session, especially since you've never taken a class at carolina before & there will be less room to get behind in the summer.</p>
<p>My roommate is a math major (or will be anyway).</p>
<p>I believe 232 is the most failed class at Carolina so the OP lucks out here...though I can't imagine 233 would be much easier. My roomie took math 381 and 383 over the summer session...he said 381 was really hard (even though it's a lot of fun) and he said 383 would have been extremely hard if he hadn't self studied for part of it before he arrived on campus this summer.</p>
<p>Top of Lenoir isn't open during the summer except for on ctops days...so you kind of have to fend for yourself as far as food.</p>
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its your choice....but please don't take these classes if your "bored."
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LOL I would not consider spending ~4k because I'm "bored."</p>
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Top of Lenoir isn't open during the summer except for on ctops days
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What do summer students typically do? Is there no school sponsored food during the summer? I guess I'd have to see if any of the Carolina students I know are taking summer courses and if so, if they could give me a ride every now and then by the grocery store.</p>
<p>Franklin street...bottom of lenoir is open....occasional cookouts...of course you can keep food in your dorm....none of the students i met while i was visiting my friends at summer session were going around hungry</p>
<p>I've not been able to tell a real difference between MAT 383 and 547. I thought MAT 383 would be best because it covers differential equations and linear algebra... but Duke seems to offer similar courses and does not recommend their version of MAT 383 to math majors. Can anyone provide any insight to MAT 383 vs. 547? </p>
<p>The math homepage of UNC seems to say
Freshman-Sophomore: 383
Junior: 547</p>
<p>Multivariable Calculus requires considerable ability to visualize. The concepts are much more complicated than what you would've encountered in 232. I don't recommend taking it alongside any other math.</p>
<p>I'm a math major in my Sophomore year, and my adviser was iffy about me taking it alongside a math intensive computer science course this semester. (COMP 166)</p>
<p>Also, if you're planning to go into any sort of math related field (which I am assuming you to be, since , I wouldn't take it so early because you want the information to be fresh. Especially differential equations. With calculus, you will probably consistently use it throughout your college career, if you take classes based on it. (ie. Physics) But differential equations only becomes utilized in advanced classes.</p>
<p>The summer school sent me to the undergrad admissions people, none of whom knew anything about the summer school program. I then called the summer school program, and I talked to a lady who was not very polite and told me that "they would not accept me as a [visiting] college student, if I was also younger than a rising high school senior." I've e-mailed the dean of summer school because I believe the either the "rule" is being used incorrectly, or that the rule itself is in violation of UNC admissions policy.</p>
<p>So I got an e-mail back from the new dean of summer school. He informed me that he would take up the issue with the administrative board, and that even if they upheld the rule that I could still apparently some how apply to the undergrad admissions to be admitted to summer school.</p>
<p>I took 383 last semester. I am not a math major. I somehow managed to do very well in it, even though I felt like I didn't know what was going on. There are some linear algebra topics but it is not that in-depth. The linear algebra covered basically just taught to be applied to solving differential equations (since the course is "first course differential equations"). If you want to learn linear algebra you should take 547.</p>
<p>That being said, you should know something, and you should consider it very seriously: these math courses you are talking about are difficult. Anything you have done in high school is nowhere near the difficulty of these courses. Keep in mind that their is also an adjustment to the college style course that will make it harder for you.</p>
<p>You also want to see how you do in your calculus course. Just because you are taking calc in your sophomore year doesn't mean you will do well in it or the courses after it. I, too, was accelerated in math and figured that out very quickly.</p>
<p>Sorry if it seems like I'm talking down to you; that's not my intention at all. Good luck, and let me know if you have more questions.</p>
<p>Edit:</p>
<p>I forgot to mention: I would also strongly recommend looking into summer programs like Summer Ventures in Science and Math and Governor's School (for rising seniors in academic topics). They are both free. I went to both and they were a lot of fun. Governor's School was probably the best time of my life. Summer Ventures was pretty awesome too.</p>