Highish ACT, lowish GPA, and whether or not I should retake the ACT.

<p>Hello everyone, and thanks for taking the time to read this.</p>

<p>First off, I'm in the middle of a bit of two internal conflicts: whether my stats should be able to get me into Michigan, and whether I should retake my ACT. It should be said, though, that this would be the third time I'd be taking the ACT. On to the stats!</p>

<p>Stats:
In-state
3.65 UW GPA
32 ACT (33's across the board, save a 30 in math)
Modest EC's (2 years of Michigan Youth Ensembles, Marching Band, Drumline section leader, lack of community service)</p>

<p>Also of note, I've taken fairly difficult courses, highest classes in all but math and 3 AP's to my name (4's and a 5 on the test)</p>

<p>Sidenote: I have been a bit reluctant to post this, but as the deadline for signing up is nearing, I need some other opinions. Again, thanks to everyone in advance.</p>

<p>My son had a similar UW GPA in mostly honors and AP classes and a 31 ACT and did not get in. His EC’s were slightly better. I think you have a decent chance but are far from a lock. I think getting great grades first semester senior year might be more important than a point or two improvement on your ACT but I am only speculating. </p>

<p>A great essay that ties you to U of M would also be helpful. In the end getting into U of M is far from a science. My daughter is now applying and she has higher grades (around 3.8) but lower ACT (29) so she is going to retake the ACT. I figure she is a tossup.</p>

<p>Thanks for the response.
My only question with this regards early action though. I will, without a doubt, be applying through early action. The deadline for that is November 1st, and if I remember correctly my school won’t even have been in for a month by that time. Our 1st semester should finish around the time they release decisions for Early Action, too. My question then, will getting great grades that first semester do anything for UM’s admissions if the marking periods are placed as such?
Thanks!</p>

<p>^^tough call on that one; it won’t be your ACT that defers you, but possibly the GPA…</p>

<p>We know a ton of people OOS who were deferred with that UW GPA; some were admitted after the deferral in January, but just as many ended up on the late waitlist in April…</p>

<p>Not a science as mentioned above…</p>

<p>Do you possibly come from an underrepresented state? That might help…</p>

<p>I’m in-state actually, if that changes anything.</p>

<p>That helps you a lot</p>

<p>Getting good grades 1st semester is very important, because if 2013 is anything like 2012 there will be a lot of deferrals. And you have to make sure your grades are as high as they can be. Also I agree with beechw00d ACT’s are fine it’s your GPA you have worry about. My daughter will be a freshmen at U of M this fall. Her GPA was 3.94 and ACT was a 28.</p>

<p>My son, OOS, was deferred from EA and anxiously waited until early April to get his acceptance - he was thrilled. His cum GPA was a 3.75 when he applied last Fall, but his GPAs (3.9, 4.1 and 4.2) during his last three semesters were great and definitely helped. He has a 30 on his ACT with very strong ECs (state and national hockey champion, published poet, won several writing awards, many hours of community service, leadership positions, etc).</p>

<p>Forgot to add, your ACT score sounds great at a 32.</p>

<p>Your stats are too low to get you admitted to U-M but the GPA is too low to say you are a match. I do not think that higher ACT scores will help your application. Strong grades in the upcoming semester would help your application if you are deferred. Good recommendations may help. It also may depend on which high school you attend and what kind of students U-M takes from your high school.</p>

<p>Mgodrum, some of your <em>actual chance</em> will depend on your school’s reputation for rigor with UMich.
For example, my son attended a magnet school, had similar stats, and was not only admitted but also received a scholarship. His school doesn’t weight, and tends to grade harder. So even with a “lower” GPA, he was in the “top” population of his school, which was NOT known for grade inflation.</p>

<p>So, if YOUR school is rigorous, or if you’re in roughly the top 10% of your class in terms of rank, you would still have a respectable shot with your GPA. Ask your guidance counselor how many of last year’s seniors applied to UMich, and how many got in, and what the class ranks were of the ones who were accepted.
That will give you a much better sense of your chances than anything we can post on this thread.</p>

<p>Then whatever you find out, apply early, write stellar essays and get great recommendations so that you stand out.
Best wishes!</p>

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<p>I meant too say stats are NOT too low. Students are admitted with your stats but others are deferred.</p>