<p>Im currently in my junior year of highschool, and I am taking 4 cc courses which end Dec 17. I was wondering if I should return to highschool and receive my HS Diploma or continue, and receive my Associates Degree at my local CC? Since basically, im wondering if HYPS require a Highschool diploma or whether they will except my Associates Degree?</p>
<p>Thx.</p>
<p>The problem with getting your Associates Degree is that you will have to apply as a transfer student. The acceptance rate is much much much lower for transfer students than it is for entering freshmen (and that rate is already incredibly low).</p>
<p>If you have over a certain number of college credits, you'll also have to apply as a transfer student (so even if you don't get your Associates). Of course you'll have to check this because in certain circumstances the college courses don't count if they are part of your high school education. I'm not sure about the specifics on that, but double check.</p>
<p>It does not matter whether you have a high school diploma or not. I don't think any college requires a high school diploma (that's how people can go to college after junior year). But demingy is right, your odds are much better if you apply to highly selective schools as a freshman rather than as a transfer student. (if you plan to go to a state school that your CC routinely feeds into, this isn't a problem, and you can save lots of money by starting at a CC). As long as all of your CC courses are through some sort of dual enrollment program, so you are officially considered still a high school student, I don't think there's any limit to the number you can acquire. The transfer issue comes up if you leave high school (with or without a diploma) and enroll in CC as a regular student.</p>
<p>Thats what im wondering Texas137 if I quit highschool and just enrol in CC as a regular student what would happen? I have till January to make up my mind, thats when the highschools in my area start accepting more students.</p>
<p>Nosx,</p>
<p>That's what I was trying to tell you. What would happen is that your chances to get into those colleges that you mentioned would go down because you'd have to apply as a transfer student.</p>
<p>Keep in mind as well that if you decide to quit high school and go to CC instead you'll still most likely have to get your GED. Almost all of the colleges that I've looked at require either a high school dipolma or GED, even if you've already gone to CC and received your Associates.</p>
<p>the Sat can't replace the GED. I heard that the GED is not well accepted by higher institutions.</p>
<p>"the Sat can't replace the GED." ????? What does that have to do with anything?</p>
<p>I'm not sure what you mean by higher institutions. What I was trying to say is that many colleges require either a highschool diploma or equivalent. IF you don't get your diploma you MIGHT have to get your GED. That's all I was trying to point out.</p>
<p>Also, I have to revise some of what I said because I checked on the Harvard website (you should usually check the college websites first). Here's what they have to say about your situation:</p>
<p>"Students who will have completed less than one full-time continuous year of study at one college by the anticipated date of matriculation at Harvard should apply as freshman candidates. (All such applicants, if admitted, will matriculate as regular freshmen without any transfer credit.)" </p>
<p>"A student who has completed one full-time year of college in a regular degree program, in lieu of the senior year of high school (under an early admission plan), should apply to Harvard College as a freshman."</p>
<p>Most colleges (especially privates) do not require either a high school diploma or a GED. Many people apply to attend college after junior year in high school w/o having either one.</p>
<p>yes but texas 137, im in my junior year in college instead of being in hs, does it differ then?</p>
<p>demingy, what your saying is that even if i do get my associates I should apply as a freshmen? Cause associates degree = 2 years, so when If I were to receive the Associates Degree i would be a senior in highschool. Or do you mean only 1 year in a cc?</p>
<p>What I'm saying is that you need to check with the schools that you are interested in. They all have different policies. I copied the one above from Harvard's website and I think it is fairly self-explanatory. Please note that it does not mention whether a HS dipolma is required but it does mention that the attending college instead of senior year "under an early admission plan". Honestly this is something you'd have to either ask your school about or the colleges because I'm not sure what this entails--there are some people on C.C. that have dealt with this and could probably give you more information.</p>
<p>Texas137, I'm pretty sure that it is the "early admission plan" that you are referring to in regards to students starting college early. In that case neither diploma or GED is required, but there is more entailed than simply starting college after junior year......particularly with HYPSM which is what the OP originally asked about.</p>
<p>you must have a high school dimploma/ged, and i would say go back to high school, becuase going in as a transfer makes things a LOT harder,</p>
<p>well i could always win the lotto and give the university a new wing</p>
<p>hs diploma or GED is NOT required by most colleges. Of course you need to read the requirements of individual schools you are interested in. But in addition to schooled applicants who apply during junior year, thousands of homeschoolers have gone to all kinds of colleges w/ neither a GED nor traditional diploma.</p>
<p>Texas137- I specified that almost all of the colleges that <em>I've</em> looked at require one or the other. I haven't looked at all colleges, I was just going by my experience. I'm sorry that I didn't make that more clear.</p>
<p>Either way, it doesn't really matter. Here's the issue: if a student wants to go a "nontraditional" route (traditional meaning attending high school, graduating, and going to college) they have to do their research. Transfer students usually (I'm not saying always) have a more difficult time when applying to colleges, students without high school diplomas generally have a more difficult time (again, not saying always--this is what I've learned from many students who were homeschooled....they were able to do it, but they had to jump through hoops in many cases), etc.</p>
<p>Nosx- If you want to know what your chances would be at HYPSM if you decide to quit high school and just go on to community college, check the websites and get clarification from the admissions office for anything you don't understand. That way you'll know for yourself and you'll be able to make up your mind from facts. How would you feel if you took someone's advice to quit high school and later find out that you reduced your chances at HYPSM, but also how would you feel if you took someone's advice to finish high school and you later find out that you didn't have to spend that extra year?</p>
<p>demingy - I would be interested in knowing which schools you have found which require either a diploma or GED. None of the ones I have looked at require either one. I'm also very involved in the homeschooling community, and have not heard of any colleges outside of NY having that requirement. If you have found some schools with this requirement, I would be interested in letting other homeschoolers know about them. Colleges do frequently have a "recommended high school program" which parallels usual graduation requirements - 4 years of English, 3 years of math, etc. But even then, a lot of them will say something like "applicants who do not meet these guidelines in every respect can still apply". Let's say Einstein has a stellar high school career, but can't get a diploma because he came down with mono senior year and is missing a half credit of required PE. Do you really think that colleges are going to refuse to take him without a GED, or make him sit out a year so he can take PE and get a diploma?</p>
<p>None of this is relevant to the original poster's question, of course, since he is not abhomeschooler. Nosx, I agree completely that the best course is to check with specific schools you are interested in and see what their requirements and transfer policies are, as well as what their admission rates are for both freshman and transfer admission. Since you are only a junior, you might want to consider getting off some applications now, and considering going off to a four-year college a year early.</p>
<p>hmm a year early, I havent taken my SAT yet lol, ill take the new reivsed Sat in March 2005.</p>
<p>you still have time to take the current SAT and make the RD deadlines. Is there a Nov date? I know there's a Dec date.</p>
<p>If you are going to max out your high school this year, I think trying to get into a 4-year college you would like to attend is much better than treading water in a CC. Lots of kids max out their high schools and apply to college junior year. All colleges consider applicants like this. The only downside in admissions is that you are competing against seniors who have a year more "stuff" than you do. (The other downside is that your parents, or you, may not be ready for you to leave home yet. You may want to discuss this with them early.)</p>
<p>I honestly was just trying to help; my intent was not to cause any problems. I didn't have much time, but here's what I found on the top two schools on my list. For background info, I'm going to be applying as a transfer student so this is where I've been gathering all of my info.</p>
<p>Under the "Am I Eligible" section on the Reed College website: "You can apply to Reed as a transfer candidate if you have graduated from high school or the equivalent and have:
completed one or more terms (such as a quarter or semester) as a full-time student working toward a degree from a regionally accredited institution of higher learning, or
received financial aid at an accredited institution of higher learning, or
earned a minimum of six Reed units (one Reed unit equals four semester or six quarter credit hours) of allowable transfer credit from an institution of higher learning. For further details, please refer to the How will my credits transfer to Reed? section of this guide."</p>
<p>From the Smith College website (granted, I'm looking at applying not only for transfer but as an Ada Comstock scholar so this could be different.....again, just <em>my</em> experience):</p>
<p>"Required application materials
Part I Application with application fee or application fee waiver
On campus interview or a telephone interview if distance makes it impossible to visit campus (Please bring unofficial copies of college transcripts to the interview.)
Part II Application
Official college transcripts
Official high school transcript or GED
Reference forms (2)"</p>
<p>That's all, and if I'm wrong then I apologize. This is all just based on what I've read from the schools themselves.</p>
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<p>"I honestly was just trying to help; my intent was not to cause any problems."</p>
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<p>Demingy - Oh, that's completely how I took it, and my intent also! If I came across as argumentative, I apologize. I certainly haven't personally researched the diploma/GED point for a huge number of schools. And as always, people need to check policies of specific schools if their circumstances are unusual. Good luck with Smith and Reed. Those are both great schools. :-)</p>
<p>(are you really 26? Is at an issue for you in selecting schools to apply to, or in your expectations for how your application will be placed in context?)</p>
<p>Texas137- I don't want to hijack this thread, but yes I really am 26. Even more, I'll be 29 when I transfer (long story)--unless I can luck out like Nosx and win the lottery. :)</p>
<p>Even though I plan to be a full-time student when I transfer (I plan to quit work and get a part-time job), my situation does make things a little more complex in finding schools and I honestly have no idea how my application will be seen by colleges. From what I've read I feel fairly optimistic, especially since I'm sure there shouldn't be any doubt about whether I can handle college because I've been working full-time and going to school part-time.</p>
<p>To get back on topic:</p>
<p>Nosx-Please keep us updated on what you decide to do, and I know I've already said this a few times but please make sure you contact some of the schools you are interested in before you make your decision. I think that if you really are for college, it really could be a good idea for you to go to college early. Just make sure you have all the info--I had also been told that I could "just quit school and start college a year early" but I found out the hard way that it isn't that simple in many cases. BUT, you definitely have options, just make sure you know what they are.</p>
<p>I know that Soozievt has a daughter that will be starting college early, you might want to see if you can talk to her about what their experience was like. I'm pretty sure there are several people on this board with similar experiences, maybe you should post something asking about it specifically.</p>
<p>Also, you didn't mention your parents. Have you talked with them about it?</p>