Hipster college/university in Boston???

<p>"Yes! we are trying to encourage the neo-hippy to expand her mind! "</p>

<p>Same here, especially considering this extreme urge to stay close to home is so alien to what I observed of most high schoolers just 10-15 years ago. </p>

<p>The only high school classmates and kids I knew who wanted to stay so close to home back then were mainly those who were constrained by financial considerations and had few good choices because of grades or conduct reasons. Vast majority of my high school classmates wanted to get as far away from their hometowns as possible…including yours truly…and we came from NYC.</p>

<p>"Really, though, your daughter will be able to find that kind of scene at any school in any big city just because of the huge variety of people attracted to cities. "</p>

<p>This is exactly what I told D–that’s the beauty of being in a big city!</p>

<p>RE: Clark–yes, we are going to visit it in a couple of weeks. As I said before D liked the vibe she got from their look book. I like what people have said about it here. Thanks!</p>

<p>Am leery of BU, because I spent an unhappy semester there many years ago–too big, too impersonal, but I’m trying not to influence D’s outlook. All of a sudden she is talking positively about it! Yikes!</p>

<p>Does anyone know anything about the Northeastern women’s/gender studies program? I know that it is just a minor.</p>

<p>Clark is in Worcester. I wouldn’t recommend having to live in Worcester for four years.</p>

<p>I agree with above. Worcester really is a pit. And Northeastern is highly pre-career focused, their coop program is famous and excellent but not a place for the type of kid interested in gender studies and similar esoterica for sure.</p>

<p>Any thoughts about Wheaton College in MA?</p>

<p>I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest that virtually anywhere she goes, there will be an element of the vibe she is looking for----specifically if she gravitates toward other gender studies students. She may find that if everyone is the hipster sort, that too much of a good thing loses its cache. That said, if she were more open geographically, then there would be more clear-cut options for her. As a rule, Boston is fairly straight-laced. I know you said NYC is out, but Eugene Lang sounds right for her. Also, Oberlin or Wesleyan.</p>

<p>Rethink Smith. It’s an all-women’s college in the midst of a 5-college consortium that is co-educational. Northampton is a very hip city. Vibrant for women’s studies. Mt. Holyoke is in the same consortium, but between the two women’s colleges I think Smith is edgier and has Northampton, rather than South Hadley, as its venue. Both are fine colleges, but Smith sounds more like your daughter’s list of preferences for college town.</p>

<p>From Smith, cross-enroll each semester at some courses at Hampshire, UMass or Amherst College. While in the Town of Amherst, hop onto the 2-hour free bus to Boston (I think it’s still there, used to go 3 times daily. It would leave from UMass Student Center, or perhaps makes a stop in Northampton first.)</p>

<p>Oberlin gets many applicants who wished they lived somewhere else, and it’s evident from their list of other schools applied. She’d have to tangle with that bias and settle it down in her mind before she writes her application, which features a “Why Oberlin” supplement question that is key. Sometimes people visit Oberlin while in session. The entire situation - Oberlin’s phenomenal cultural resources, on site, and the students themselves – overtakes their prior assumptions about “midwest, cornfields” and all of that. The only way to know is to visit there. If you realize that everything you look for in X city might be right on campus there each weekend, then you understand Oberlin.
Then, IF she opens up to something West of the Appalachians, more cool/hip LAC places come to mind: Carleton, Grinnell and Kenyon, just to name a few.</p>

<p>Wesleyan makes sense for her listed criteria, as it has the commuter relationship to Boston and progressive student body. The chance to clang the ethnomusicology gong daily would get me there if I were doing it all over again.</p>

<p>Brown, if she could get in. Providence is an artsy city and in easy reach of Boston (less than an hour, good bus and train service between cities).</p>

<p>Brandeis has a keen sense of social justice, diverse enrolment and its own commuter bus into Boston (30 min.) The wisecrack about all future “lawyers and accountants” – outdated info, on-the-bias.</p>

<p>From Tufts, I’ve heard of students interested in international relations, doing domestic self-help projects, biking cross-country summertimes and so on. She might find her people there, but she has to be willing to overlook others who seem more conventional, too.</p>

<p>Finally – I don’t know what’s up about no New York State, but, Vassar College sounds just right, too, in terms of other criteria. What she might find there would be people who hail from Boston or New York areas, and could go home with them on some occasional weekends for a city-jumpstart. Gosh it’s just 30 minutes from the Massachusetts border. PRETEND it’s in Massachusetts. </p>

<p>See if you can get her to list what appeals to her about Boston (other than that it’s Boston) and break it down to individual appealing features of Boston. Those features might be replicated individually, elsewhere, in ways the college community itself provides (bookstores, heady atmosphere, progressive politics…) even when located suburban or rural. </p>

<p>My S-1 always loved NYC while in h.s., but waited to move there until he graduated, to make his career and adult life there. It has worked out just great for him. If she adores Boston, you might remind her that it will still be up in 4 years, to become her post-college destination.</p>

<p>Regarding Wheaton, my senior D just crossed it off her list after visiting. She said the campus was beautiful but it seemed dull, and it was empty on a Saturday afternoon, and said the admissions people said too many times that it wasn’t a suitcase school.</p>

<p>As for earlier posts putting down Worcester (home of Clark), that’s their perspective. Parts of it are too tough/shabby for some people, but others have no trouble with it at all. It has a lot of good things, too. And the commuter train to Boston is only about $7.50 and an hour or so.</p>

<p>"As for earlier posts putting down Worcester (home of Clark), that’s their perspective. Parts of it are too tough/shabby for some people, but others have no trouble with it at all. It has a lot of good things, too. And the commuter train to Boston is only about $7.50 and an hour or so. "</p>

<p>Heard Clark is in a better part of town. However, one thing I would ask from current students is what the crime rates are like. </p>

<p>Knew a few college students several years back who transferred out of WPI because they were fed up after their campus abutting apartments were broken into for the 3rd or more time despite having multiple locks and securing their rooms before leaving for classes/lab work.</p>

<p>Great posting paying3tuitions! We are going to see Brown and Tufts (and Clark) soon and have visited Brandeis. Still hoping for Smith. In the end, it all comes down to $. Whichever school gives her the most aid will help make the decision.</p>

<p>BTW tried to get D interested in Vassar–she likes their talk, but it’s in NY state (I also thought of trying to sell it by saying it was so close to MA.!)</p>

<p>And college4three–I think you are correct, also. Being with the same group, no matter what, can get old. It’s just that she has no group in HS and is really looking forward to being with like-minded students.</p>

<p>I am a big fan of Oberlin…she really should check it out! It really sounds perfect for her and the town of Oberlin really has all you would need…Cleveland 30 minutes away. The kids are so up her alley. It really would be a shame not to check it out. I am also more than happy to ask my daughter who is a sophomore there to put her up…she is very much like your daughter, had all the same requests, etc…and thankfully ended up at Oberlin!</p>

<p>There are some good parts of Worsceter, but not for an 18-22 year old. Fine for adults though, if you don’t mind that sort of thing.</p>

<p>There’s a lot of good non-Boston-area suggestions in this thread that are worth serious consideration, but it sounds like she cares more about Boston than anything else. I don’t think there’s one school that fits her urban need along with her other interests–there’s only so many schools in Boston. Most people who are that concerned with being in Boston usually go to BU, Northeastern (probably too preprofessional for her and the co-op system isn’t for everyone) or Emerson (limited to arts/communication majors). BU isn’t really activist, but there’s definitely a hip subculture at BU, and for someone obsessed with Boston there’s no better place. </p>

<p>The best compromise may be Tufts, which has some elements of a hip and social activist subculture, while being within a pretty short T ride of Boston proper. Somerville feels slightly more urban/connected to Boston than Waltham. Although honestly I think she should take a second look at Brandeis–it can take as long to get from some areas of Boston to downtown as it does to get there from Brandeis, and it sounds like it is a decent match for the social environment she’d want.</p>

<p>We visited Brandeis, Tufts, and BU. There is a train stop in walking distance from Brandeis, and there is also the “Bran Van” that will take you into Boston or Cambridge. We also ate dinner in Waltham, and thought that the Moody Street area is a really charming neighborhood with affordable restaurants and shops. Brandeis was founded with a social activism agenda.</p>