<p>So, yeah, I'm not here to criticize the institution that is Dartmouth b/c I think they have perhaps the best undergraduate program second only to Princeton, but anyway. So, this year I applied to Dartmouth, is was just on a whim, and all, but anyway, so I finally get a phone call to have my interview, which later is postponed b/c of snow. So, before I actually manage to get my interview I get a letter from Dartmouth, it was a "likely letter" from Dartmouth, a concept that I was unfamiliar with and which my GC had to call the admissions office and ask about the letter. But, anyway, herein lies the problem, I was just annoyed that they decided to send me a likely letter, when I had a very incomplete application. I mean, I didn't have my interview yet [which proves that at some institutions they really don't care much about interviews] and also, up to that time I never had any of my friends send in a peer evaluation. So I think how professional could Dartmouth be to send a likely letter on such an incomplete application. I mean granted I was more than overjoyed when I got my acceptance come April 1st, but hmmm, it was just a weird feeling to say the least, b/c to add to it, I actually never sent in a peer evaluation, so hmm, it just makes me reconsider Dartmouth's application process as well as the college application process itself.</p>
<p>lol this hardly sounds like something to sweat about; many, many others would LOVE to switch places with you and they totally wouldn't have second thoughts about it.</p>
<p>what is your point,tonyt88? you got in, right? is this a show off thread? well, if you have any complaint, doubts, criticisms, fears and anxieties, please do us a favour and keep it to yourself. yours wasn't worth mentioning</p>
<p>Dartmouth does not make the interview mandatory for admissions
(and it is not held against you if you don't do one. Remember not everyone requests an interview and the school cannot accomodate every one who does request an intervew).</p>
<p>While the school does require a peer recommendation, and you state your's was not submitted, it is apparent that the school believed that they had enough information to make a decison and the school made a decision based on the information they had. Maybe you are just lucky because if this posting is an indication of the real you (as character is who you are when no one is watching) the out come could have been different.</p>
<p>But after all has been said and done, every thing works out for the best because now you don't have to worry about attending Dartmouth it's a moot point and everything else is just water under the bridge. </p>
<p>What your rant goes to demonstrate is that one could be book smart, but you can still say things that make you life stupid and no amount of book knowledge can make up for having a little tact, style, grace, and some gratitude (because you are coming off as a bit obnoxious). Should you live on a few more days you will find that those things will take you a long way. As jason stated, there are many who would have loved to change places with you and would have been happy to attend.</p>
<p>wishing you well in cambridge.</p>
<p>Obviously the Dartmouth Admissions Office felt as though they had enough stellar information about you to send you a likely letter, and did not need to have your peer recommendation in hand. As Sybbie stated, the interview is not mandatory. My daughter had the same thing happen with Pomona College and received her acceptance without having completed the application. However, her response was pure elation, instead of bashing the college. She is now at Dartmouth. The kids who are there relish the community, and are proud to be a part of it. Perhaps (or hopefully?) you have chosen a different campus to attend if you have such negative thoughts about the school.</p>
<p>I understand where the OP is coming from, but I wouldn't hold it against the college. The admissions office isn't representative of what four years at Dartmouth is like, so I wouldn't hold it against the college if I were you. But to each his own, I guess.</p>
<p>Haha, you should call the office as a student looking to apply and ask whether they would accept a student with an incomplete application and see what they say.</p>
<p>lol theoneo :). Hmmm, no I do like Dartmouth, quite a lot, I think it's an amazing school. It's just that it makes you think and wonder about it all, nothing more.</p>
<p>tony ...son is an 08</p>
<p>what we heard the peer is only used if down to almost a dead heat between 2 candidates...the interview means almost as little ..it can never help you only it can hurt you if your a total misfit..afterall
most candidates will be seen by a home town alum who usually
is favorable...</p>
<p>if they sent you a likely your gpa, sat, rank and perhaps teacher and guidance recs did the job </p>
<p>congrats!!...you will not be disappointed with your next 4 years</p>
<p>What a lame thread. But I guess when you're a qualified enough applicant...and a minority....</p>
<p>Tonyt88 - Someone who doesn't know how good he's got it...</p>
<p>Well, Tonyt88, I am not fond of Dartmouth and its likely letters either, but for me that's because I didn't get one. Going into my senior year Dartmouth was my first choice. But in February I saw people on the Dartmouth thread post that they had received likely letters. Every week more people seemed to have received one and I felt really anxious. Could there be any places left?</p>
<p>I never did get a likely letter, but I did get accepted to Dartmouth after all (and to Harvard and Princeton as well). The whole thing left a bitter taste in my mouth about Dartmouth. Personally I found the whole likely thing pretty inconsiderate. Dartmouth is telling some people "Here you go, we are telling you early because you are one of our top choices and we don't want you to spend your senior year worrying about this, so we hope this will relieve your anxiety." To everyone else Dartmouth is basically saying, "Hey, we really don't care if you worry or not. We may want you in the end, but frankly you are not at the top of our list."</p>
<p>By the time acceptances came, I tried to keep an open mind toward Dartmouth but after the whole likely letter thing I just couldn't recapture the old enthusiasm that I had once felt.</p>
<p>I'd be lying if I said I didn't read that entire post (TonyT's, of course) with a valley-girl dialect attached. All the "hmmmm's" and "well, actually, but anyways" were certainly convincing elements that led me to do so.</p>
<p>Anyways.. come on. You can't be serious. I laughed when I read that. After a year like that (college admissions-wise), you are complaining about getting accepted to an ivy league school with an incomplete application? </p>
<p>yikes.</p>
<p>if only you could give me that spot :(</p>
<p>One of the URMs that made ivies jump. And?</p>
<p>Tonyt88, you should've known you were going to upset some of the kids who are entitled to those spots.</p>
<p>i think people might be overreacting to this post just a tad. breathe, kids.</p>
<p>Wait, so ksanders I wasn't entitled to a spot?</p>
<p>Please keep in mind that interviews are notoriously unreliable. They are mostly used as a means of increasing yield and offering a chance for kids to ask questions, rather than a major source of admissions information.</p>
<p>Tonyt88, I don't think anyone is entitled to an acceptance. I was referring to a generalization that URMs "steal" spots of the deserving whites.</p>
<p>... hmm, whatever you say, and legacies and athletes don't steal spots from others, and of course I must have missed that whites are the super race that we keep stealing acceptances from, seriously, have you thought about what you're saying.</p>