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Im sorry but it doesnt matter where your attending college its more about living a good life and homeschooled kids are screwed up...at least until they go off to college and learn how to be independent.
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<p>Um, did you read anything in this thread? SweetestSith just gave a a whole bunch of examples that showed how she was independent, and homeschooled.</p>
<p>Doesnt matter...maybe thats one persons experience but 99.9% of homeschooled kids are lacking of many things. Take for example, those two Nazi twins who are also homeschooled...yeaaahhhh there ya go! ;)</p>
<p>You're absolutely right, WoW4201. We all know there are no nerdy, shy, antisocial, criminal, religiously indoctrinated, or otherwise 'messed up' kids in public school.</p>
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Doesnt matter...maybe thats one persons experience but 99.9% of homeschooled kids are lacking of many things. Take for example, those two Nazi twins who are also homeschooled...yeaaahhhh there ya go!
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<p>Yea, um just because you know of some homeschooled people that are Nazis doesn't mean that all of them are.</p>
<p>"You're absolutely right, WoW4201. We all know there are no nerdy, shy, antisocial, criminal, religiously indoctrinated, or otherwise 'messed up' kids in public school."</p>
<p>.....your talking about a few compared to 90% of homeschooled kids</p>
<p>Do you have any kind of proof or actual statistical data?</p>
<p>yep the Nazi twins and my neighbor...you only have sweetistsith so I win...no but seriously this argument is boring and stupid so Im out...Payce</p>
<p>"but seriously this argument is boring and stupid"</p>
<p>You finally got one thing right ;)</p>
<p>Now there wouldn't be any bias in that would there?</p>
<p>If you really want I could take this to the board and get 20+ kids on here with similar story's, don't see what the point is though... Our family is involved in several huge conferences a year, so I have met 100's - and I have lived in several states with completely different homeschoolers, none of them were retards though. And from the examples I gave of the homeschooling activities I did, obviously, if they are large groups, there are MANY more than me doing the same activities...</p>
<p>If in fact your point of view is correct you have 3 to go on, that is an extremely minute number. If your experience is limited to that .000000000000000000000000001 percent, that doesn't quite equate to 99.9%... </p>
<p>Oh yeah, I read somewhere, 89.983838% of statistics are made up on the spot...Highly reliable and very well documented source...</p>
<p>Oh yeah, and what's wrong with being friends with your siblings? One of my best friends is my sister... </p>
<p>Also, it requires some serious stalking on your part to say that the kid next door has no friends...lol</p>
<p><em>shakes head at argument 354,543,543,345 of the same topic</em></p>
<p>Well, I hate to go against the homeschooling grain</p>
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<p>I was homeschooled from 3rd grade till 11th, and i had a terrible time with socializing. I got a great education and landed in an elite school, but I was never able to really socialize in a possitive way. the places that i had availible to me (ghetto after school programs and summer camps) were socially "anti-intellectual". i got made fun of and even physically assaulted for being smart. If you're homeschooling in a reasonably well to do environment and are fortunate enough to be around similarly minded people, then homeschooling can be good. I didnt have that luxury so I had to learn to not be as outgoing as i naturally was. As a result I lost alot of the abilty to socialize with people my own age. even in my plethora of extracurriculars, I didn't do much socializing because i was too different from the folks around me to be accepted. homeschooling gave me ability to make my own mind up about intrests, but it didnt give me the ability to be around people with similar intrests.</p>
<p>its funny for me to read the posts of the other homeschoolers on this board. my family doesnt have a religious affiliation (we're pretty much agnostic) so that cut us out of the majority of homeschooling support groups so I didn't grow up socializing with any other homeschoolers. because of the state i live in, i wasnt able to participate in any of the public school experiences (sports, etc) that other homeschoolers could in other places. so homeschooling is very dependent on WHERE you do it.</p>
<p>even in college, it has been very difficult to make the transition because I'm really at a loss to relating to other kids. homeschooling is a real complication. But its not because I can't accept non-homeschoolers, it's because non-homeschoolers have issues accepting the validity of homeschooling. the first thing that they assume is that im anti social, which am not. I might be out of practice and I might not have much experience as they have, but that doesn't mean that I'm anti social. I would love to socialize with lots of people, but I don't like being treated like a weirdo. I got to be shy, withdrawn, etc as a result of interacting with "regular" kids not from learning at home.</p>
<p>so basically, I think that the biggest problem with homeschoolers and socializing is that most folks have difficulty accepting the homeschooling lifestyle. homeschooling is just as imperfect as any other type of schooling, so why portray it like its the much worse? you may want to invent a link to sociopathy or maladjustment, but you would be more likely to draw a substantial link to religious zealotry than anything else. I think homeschoolers need to accept the limitations of their choice. its not perfect but it can be the best fit for some kids in some situations. all of the problems i've ever had related to homeschooling havent been because of me, but because of non homeschoolers and their attitudes.</p>
<p>"all of the problems i've ever had related to homeschooling havent been because of me, but because of non homeschoolers and their attitudes."</p>
<p>Same for me. And about the religious zealotry part - while the majority of homeschoolers may be zealots, you'd be surprised how many secular homeschoolers there are. I live in the heart of the bible belt where it is pretty much assumed that if you homeschool, it's because you're a super-Christian. Yet when my family started a secular homeschooling group, we had about 30 families jump on board immediately. The religious homeschoolers may be the loud ones, but they aren't the only ones.</p>
<p>yeah, it wasnt till after we finished homeschooling that we began to run across the secular ones. i think its funny how traditional school is lauded as being this thing that teaches you how to socialize and stuff. but alot of those kids have difficulty accepting someone who did something slightly different than them.</p>
<p>Wes - amazing post, love it, so much of it is so true. Until by whatever grace we happened to move to this place during my early highschool years, acceptance was very difficult, because of the automatic "you are horribly unsocial" block. I had the same problem of learning to be my normal outgoing self. Blocked myself in a bit for awhile until we all grew up and the kids in my neighborhood and youth group stopped being so judgemental. </p>
<p>But the thing I found was that the rarity of the few very good friends I found, half homeschooled, half not, even if we were states apart just made it that much more special. And sometimes those rare friends counted only as my siblings, until the last few years, but the higher road is always a lonley road, and if more kids, (public, private and homeschooled) stopped being afraid of being smart (like I was for years) that road would be much more populated. </p>
<p>I know it's not just a homeschooler thing though, my sisters best friend is public schooled and she never acted as smart as she was unless she was home or at our house because she was always made fun of for her brains with other kids.</p>
<p>"Oh my gosh you're different than me! EW!!!"</p>
<p>"Oh my, you know what that means, YOU'RE different from me, EWWW!!!!!"</p>
<p>Perhaps it depends upon where you live. My sons often had kids jealous of their homeschooling, rather than teasing them for it. Any teasing they received was no more than that kids in school received for other things--too smart, not smart enough, different clothes, differents interests, etc., etc. Kids tease, and I don't think it matters whether you were homeschooled or not.</p>
<p>I have one son who is very social, one who is not. Both were homeschooled, so that is obviously not the reason. I went to public school and had a terrible time learning to be social. A lot of it is just different personalities.</p>
<p>yeah, new york state is incredibly hostile to homeschoolers. i think the biggest problem facing homeschoolers is finding a rational common ground with general education. so much of the argument get balkanized between "o homeschooling is crap, you guy are anti-social, etc" and "homeschooling is the only thing that can save your mortal soul, the real world is evil, bob jones is god and that's why we exclusively use his curriculum." it makes both sides look really bad and crazy. homeschooling is fighting a huge numbers battle. it's not common place because alot of parents are incapable of teaching their own kids and alot of kids are incapable of learning from their own parents. i know people who tried homeschooling and failed because their kids could not function in that environment. and as for the objectionality argument, just how objective do you think a school system that allows people to graduate from it who can barely read is? the national average SAT score is a 1000, what that tells me is that the traditional school system is equiped to handle a certain amount of excellence and not much more. there are people who excell there, but that is not by design. they are particularly adept to doing well in that environment. but the overwhelming majority of students doens't get the best bang for their buck.</p>
<p>Good grief yes, one of the reasons we moved from there, NY is horrible for homeschoolers, we know several families up there who have had threats of removal of their children from the home for one reason or another.</p>
<p>THIS THREAD IS MORE THAN A YEAR OLD!!!!!!!!! isn't it time we started a bunch of other threads instead of continuing a year old one up to FIVE pages????</p>
<p>no offense, though. i'm homeschooled (lil more than half a year) and i don't think anyone should be against it unless s/he tried it, hated it, and stopped doing it by now. happy thanksgiving!</p>
<p>homeschooling is a difficult pill to swallow because our culture produces to large effect "warehouse people", people who know the exact same things, like the same things, look the same way, etc. when you introduce something that removes a person from the majority of that assimilation process, you disarm them in a way. they are really at a loss to relate to anything outside of what they have been exposed to. i think it's far more important to establish a rational front for homeschooling. something that doesnt characterize us as anti-social or religious fanatics.</p>
<p>check out my post: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=118290%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=118290</a></p>
<p>ps i hate the idea of homeschooling. all the homeschooled children i know are MESSED up as h.e.l.l. they are racist, have no social skills, depend on their parents all the time, and are extremely annoying.</p>