<p>When one makes a universal claim, it’s supposed to be universally true. I already posted statistics that contradict his opinion and those same observations can be made at universities across the country. Let it be and move on.</p>
<p>Avoiding the topic of GPAs (many will contend that lots of GLO members tend to take easier majors), I’ve met several greeks who get good grades while being in difficult courses. Hell one of the brightest people I know joined a fraternity, and a full-on social one at that (not a professional fraternity which, although they often know how to have fun, usually don’t put as much of an emphasis on huge-ass ragers as social ones).</p>
<p>using MIT as a representation of the entire greek systemin the US? lol, just lol.</p>
<p>in the vast majority of places kids in the greek system have lower GPA’s than average. and it’s sad considering that most of them are business majors which is so easy.</p>
<p>^^AMEN MY BROTHER!!! </p>
<p>Geez these CC people need to get real.</p>
<p>operations management is not that easy</p>
<p>e: oh wait, anything that’s not engineering or math is a cakewalk :rolleyes:</p>
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<p>In this case, MIT is representative. Most of those schools coming up on google are not academic powerhouses.</p>
<p>Burgsoccer, sorry you got called out for parading a lie as a truth. The “it’s my opinion” defense doesn’t work when you don’t claim it as an opinion. The only declared opinion in your post is that you would rather have high grades than friends. The rest is just libel, which is not protected in America ;-)</p>
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<p>MIT probably has a ton of academic fraternities and sororities, knowing their student body.</p>
<p>btw, for whatever reason the average GPA of sororities seems to be significantly higher than fraternities. at my school the avg. fraternity GPA is ~2.9, and the sorority GPA is ~3.25, which obviously shifts the overall average up. just an interesting thing to point out</p>
<p>Haha call me out all you want, we’ll see how far you get</p>
<p>I know at my school and a couple other schools with people in fraternities that I’ve talked to that the all men’s average gpa for that school is used as the requirement for greek organizations to hold themselves. If they fall below that gpa then the house is put on suspension and eventually their charter is pulled if they don’t surpass it in a certain time. </p>
<p>Basically greeks are held to a higher standard. </p>
<p>Another thing is with a house that’s full of at least 50 plus brothers you’re bound to be taking the same class as another brother. Also the older guys help out the younger ones because they have taken the same classes. </p>
<p>At my chapter we have a study that’s perfect for getting work done plus mandatory study hours for anyone who is slipping as encouragement to get their grades up.</p>
<p>Former frat president, currently MD/PhD student at top 20 institution.</p>
<p>^Correlation != causation dude. That’s like Steve Jobs saying “College dropout, former CEO of incredibly successful tech company.”</p>
<p>e: Unless you were trying to prove a point about how not all fraternity members are knuckle-dragging dullards.</p>
<p>The reason why sororities have much higher GPAs than frats is because women generally get much higher grades than men in college. Sexist, but true.</p>
<p>-------------------------------------------If it is to be, it is up to me…</p>
<p>RioBravo,</p>
<p>definitely not trying to imply one caused the other, although the correlation between leadership experience in college and success in graduate admissions definitely exists. I would argue that leadership is necessary but not sufficient in success at the next level. When I say leadership in this case, greek life is just one example of a myriad of things you could do. </p>
<p>My post was actually a rebuttal to burgsoccer saying “let’s see how far you get” since I assume he was trying to imply that I was probably not going very far. To use your analogy, I was pointing out how dumb burgsoccer looks telling Steve Jobs in a condescending manner, “Oh yeah buddy, let’s see how successful you are given what you think.” (This would obviously look pretty dumb given Steve Jobs’s success.) Although my current state of success is no where near that level, I am assuming it is far more than what burgsoccer anticipated (and possibly more than burgsoccer himself). I understand why he attacked me, the evidence I provided against his arguments was pretty strong so he had no where left to go but personal attacks.</p>
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Burgsoccer just started college as a freshman.</p>
<p>Works for me, Brown :)</p>
<p>I think Burger or whatever his username is will eventually realize that not all greeks are idiots or jerks. Yeah, the stereotype did come out of some truth, but for every Van Wilder there are several hard working nice folks.</p>
<p>No, they are not idiots OR jerks, they are idiots AND jerks ;)</p>
<p>Thought I’d just clear that up for ya champ :D</p>
<p>This doesn’t even deserve to be called trolling, lol.</p>
<p>yeah, I was a better ■■■■■ in high school</p>
<p>^ yeah, unfortunately I didn’t notice that it was an obvious ■■■■■ until this last response.</p>
<p>Also Rio, Van Wilder wasn’t actually a Greek, but his overachieving, grade conscious nemesis was, go figure.</p>