Honor Code Violation

[Consolation]

<p>If your D ever wants to apply to law school she has the makings of an excellent essay on the subject of gross injustices perpetrated by flawed judicial systems!</p>

[Kennedy2010]

<p>So sorry tomsgirl. I just keep thinking how lucky she is though to have you in her corner.</p>

[cobrat]

<p>This could also pose problems when working for government agencies dealing with sensitive matters. Also, poses an issue with the military…especially if one is trying to join as an officer or enter career fields where a secret or higher clearance is required as part of the job. </p>

<p>Relatives who were in the service and/or such agencies had to not only deal with questions about honesty/integrity, but also extensive background checks…sometimes going back to one’s childhood.</p>

[Consolation]

<p>cobrat, maybe you could show a little sensitivity and give it a rest. The D will take their required integrity course and it won’t be on her transcript. Stop with the gloom and doom, okay?</p>

[tomsgirl]

<p>Consolation, you may be my new best friend! I like the venting above I feel the same.
Cobrat, it’s ok I asked.</p>

[eyemgh]

<p>Schools are a bit like Guantanamo Bay, they play by their own rules. You can lawyer up and sue away, but in the end it will likely result in nothing more than a big bill. I know it must really suck, but the final result will hopefully be an increase in resilience. There’s not much else positive that comes out of situations like these. Good luck.</p>

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[Seahorsesrock]

<p>She wil. Be fine. An F? Well they happen and people move on. Your D will be fine.</p>

<p>I would advise her to work on the test anxiety thing. And if d a place to sit during a test so can’t be accuses again. </p>

<p>It more the school protecting a prof then railroading you kid, but that’s the result. I have seen the same defense of cops, other teachers, etc. one teacher made ME cry she was so unfair to my child, so congrats to you D for holdi g strong.</p>

<p>It’ll be fine. Don’t buy into the fear mongering and if it’s not on the transcript then it doesn’t have to be mentioned.</p>

<p>Breath hug your daughter and move on</p>

[sybbie719]

<p>Tom, </p>

<p>I am sorry to hear about this. Keep in mind, that even if it is not on her record, she should still check with her dean as she may still have to report the incident and the outcome (when in doubt always disclose, because the problems come with the lack of disclosure). If her school has grade replacement, I would recommend that she retakes the course with another professor, so that the F is not calculated in her GPA. Also check with the school to find out if when they do grade replacement, if the F is totally removed from the transcript.</p>

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Several friends of friends ended up having to jump through many hoops and endure difficult questions during the character & fitness checks because of honor violations in college…especially if they failed to mention that in the questionnaires/law school applications.

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<p>Actually on the law school and the bar applications ask the following questions:</p>

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Have you ever been denied admission to any school, college, law school, or other similar institution for stated cause which might reflect upon your character?

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Have you ever been placed on probation, dropped, suspended, expelled or otherwise been subjected to discipline by any institution of learning above elementary school level for conduct which might reflect upon your character?

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Have you ever been requested or advised by any college, law school, or other professional or graduate school for any reason to discontinue your studies therein?

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<p><a href=“http://www.nybarexam.org/Admission/Part%20I-Application_9.21.2011.pdf[/url]”>http://www.nybarexam.org/Admission/Part%20I-Application_9.21.2011.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>The application gives you space to answer the question. If they need any additional information the court will ask you.</p>

<p>I was just talking to my D last night as she is going through the bar process. One of her friends was on academic probation on term for failing a class (graduated from HYS and working big law). She said the judge called her and just asked what happened. She explained and the judge told her to write an explanation, send it to the court so that it can be placed in her file and she can be set up for an interview. </p>

<p>My D feels that she has gone through a little more aggravation because her name was misspelled on her original BC and I did not have it corrected until a few years later. She has to write on her application all other names she has been “known by” and had to list the misspelled name. The judge who is reviewing her file told her that she has to bring in an exemplified copy(which will document the changes) of the long form of her BC to the interview.</p>

<p>She lost the corrected copy of the long form of the the corrected BC a couple of years ago. Made a couple of calls to 311 and vital statistics to find out the process for getting what she needs. So guess who will be on line monday morning ordering another copy and paying the additional fees plus overnight mailing(not me).</p>

[WayOutWestMom]

<p>Similarly applications to medical school, dental school, physician assistant programs, physical therapy programs, and most BSRN and MRN programs all ask if the applicant has ever been subject to any institutional actions.</p>

<p>Applicants are required to answer “yes” even if the action does not appear on their record or transcript.</p>

<p>For example, AMCAS (medical school admission service) states:</p>

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You must answer Yes to this question if you were ever the recipient of any institutional action resulting from unacceptable academic performance or a conduct violation, even if such action did not interrupt your enrollment or require you to withdraw. You must answer Yes even if the action does not appear on or has been deleted from your official transcripts due to institutional policy or personal petition.

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<p><a href=“https://services.aamc.org/AMCAS2_2010/WebApp/Help/WebHelp/Institutional_Action.htm[/url]”>https://services.aamc.org/AMCAS2_2010/WebApp/Help/WebHelp/Institutional_Action.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Every application gives the applicant a limited amount of space to explain the circumstances.</p>

[cobrat]

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cobrat, maybe you could show a little sensitivity and give it a rest. The D will take their required integrity course and it won’t be on her transcript. Stop with the gloom and doom, okay?

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<p>I’m trying to give a realistic roadmap of possible issues the OP’s D may face with an honor violation on her transcript and condu</p>