<p>planned class schedule submission is due May 20th, but I have not decided any of my classes for sure, yet..</p>
<p>I read many thread about it, and it seems to me that not so many are taking honors classes (Physics H7A, H53, H54, and so on..)
Why? because they are toooooooooooo hard? or just to make your first year easy?</p>
<p>And I wonder if anyone could help me choose my classes...
I have 5 on Chem, BC (and AB subscore), and expect 5s on both Mech and E/M. Im majoring in Chem.E. and yeah...</p>
<p>for fall, Im thinking</p>
<p>Chem 4A (4B? what's different? Is 4A for 1st sem, and 4B for 2nd sem?) (4)
Math 53 (Is taking H53 bad? I will have to see what people say about honors classes). (4)
Physics 7A (again, A and B? what's different? Honors, i'm not thinking, 'cause I am not going to major in it.) (4)
English (R1A, R1B... again, A and B ?, and I expect at least a 4 on my AP Lang&Comp, so that means I can skip R1A? ) (4)</p>
<p>So I guess 16 units? I don't see why many with Chem.E. are taking physics, but I guess I will have to follow what most people do?</p>
<p>I know I'm asking too much random stuff at a time but please help.</p>
<p>if you want to take math H53, go ahead. but what past experience do you have with single variable calc (5 on the BC test, etc?) </p>
<p>it’s your first semester, do what you want with it. but don’t whine about your GPA if you feel you can’t handle it. (3 tech courses (chem and physics together???) + your R1B? imo you’re setting yourself up for a very anti-social, stressful, and frustrating first semester.</p>
<p>The honors courses are for those who are good in the subject (if you got 5 in the AP test and thought it was easy, you certainly qualify) and have a strong interest in it. They are not mandatory even if you major in the subject, though the top students in the majors tend to choose the honors courses (unless they are so far ahead that they jump immediately to upper division). Non-majors sometimes choose the honors courses out of interest as well.</p>
<p>Not all honors courses are offered every semester. For example, Math H54 is offered fall and Math H53 is offered spring. (Math 53 and 54 can be taken in either order, although 53 is needed at least concurrently with Physics 7B.)</p>
<p>The College of Chemistry and College of Engineering do let you bypass Physics 7A with sufficiently high AP Physics C scores, though that is not allowed for Physics majors. If you meet that, you may want to choose either Physics 7B or H7A to avoid being bored with useless repetition in 7A.</p>
<p>A 4 in either AP English lets you skip R&C A (e.g. English R1A).</p>
<p>Also, if you’re taking AP English Lit…you can get out of both RCa and RCb if you get a 5. I think that’s the only way to completely get out of RC at Cal.</p>
<p>Also also, my best friend took Physics H7A and Math H1B his first semester as a freshman. He got 5s on both Physics C and Calc BC, and worked his bootay off…He didn’t do as well as he’d have hoped and was pretty upset with his decision to take the honors classes. I don’t think honors courses are worth it…I don’t understand the point. Just get an A+ in the non-honors courses instead (which is also ridiculously hard, anyways).</p>
<p>The reason most people don’t take Honors is because Honors is, as you suggested, brutally hard. The only people I know who do not regret the decision are people who were required to on the basis of major.</p>
<p>Chem 4A is first semester, 4B is second semester. The College of Chemistry’s majors are all extremely structured programs, and almost none of the classes are offered both fall and spring.</p>
<p>Thank you all… I see not many are satisfied with honors courses, so…now I think I’m going to take these classes:</p>
<p>chem 4a
math h53 or h54 (But h53 is not offered in Fall? so I’ll have to take h54? Is that the case?)
physics 7b
english r1b
(AND is Chem.E C96 required in the first semester? or i can just take it later at any time when it’s offered?)</p>
<p>I thought it would be a good thing to take all honors classes as it was in high school, but it’s college and i will need some time to see how well i do on all of those, so just one honors for math would be fine…(all 4 years in my high school was a joke in math-wise, anyway…, and I forgot to tell you this: im international from Korea and did all my math work there even before coming to the States.)</p>
<p>Plus, I can always change my schedule (move to higher one, or drop down) within the first few weeks of school year, so yeah. Cool.</p>
<p>I didn’t even know Berkeley had Honors courses. O.o </p>
<p>Are there any honor courses for any of these classes?
Chem 3A (I got a fairly easy 5 on AP Chem last year)
Bio 1A (I probably got a 5 on AP Bio this year)
I just searched and there doesn’t appear to be anything… What’s the difference between regular and honors courses? Are honors courses faster paced? Does it boost your GPA? </p>
<p>By the way, does anyone know if any new classes will be scheduled later on? Last time I checked, Chem 3A only had 3 spots left, and that’s before even the first CalSO… (I’m in the second CalSO.)</p>
<p>Physics 7B is listed as a prerequisite or corequisite for Chemical Engineering 140, which is also listed for the third semester. It is also listed as a prerequisite for Chemistry 120A, which is listed for the sixth semester.</p>
<p>So if you want to take honors math, you can do something like the following (with the * courses interchangeable in their positions in your schedule):</p>
<p>First semester:
Chemistry 4A
Chemical Engineering C96
Math H54
R&C or breadth *</p>
<p>Second semester:
Chemistry 4B
Math H53
Physics 7B or H7B
breadth or Engineering 7 *</p>
<p>Third semester:</p>
<p>Chemistry 112A
Chemical Engineering 140
breadth or Engineering 45 *
breadth *</p>
<p>I haven’t thought about my third semester schedule, but your suggested first and second are identical to what I was going for,</p>
<p>First semester:
(YOU)----------------------------------(ME)
Chemistry 4A---------------------------same
Chemical Engineering C96---------------same
Math H54------------------------------same
R&C or breadth *----------------------same (R1B)</p>
<p>Second semester:
(YOU)---------------------------------(ME)
Chemistry 4B---------------------------same
Math H53------------------------------same
Physics 7B or H7B-----------------------same (H7B)
breadth or Engineering 7 *--------------was going for Music 26AC, but Eng7 sounds better</p>
<p>So, cool. Now I’m going to USPS to send my planned schedule for both fall and spring of 2011.</p>
yes and then they go into deeper concepts. and no, in fact many would say they do the opposite. it’s just to challenge yourself (if the regular class would be too boring and intellectually insulting for you, basically)</p>
<p>Not sure how far you plan on going in math, but I took Math H110 and Math H104, and a word of warning: they tend to lecture and teach stuff that’s not on the usual syllabus. When I took H110, lectures never covered what was in the book, only topics which interested the professor, who was an operator theorist. We were never tested on the stuff, so really the class worked as if we learned the book on our own, and the lectures were just for interesting material.</p>
<p>In H104, which is real analysis, we barely covered any standard real analysis! The whole course consisted of a month and a half of order theory, and two and a half months of general topology. This was nice, but after the class, I look at stuff the regular 104 classes do, and I don’t know how to do it! So this leaves me to learn 104 on my own when I find the time.</p>
<p>NB: The classes aren’t really harder to get a good grade in than the regular courses. I took regular 113, and found the outcome to be the same.</p>
<p>I’m still not sure why you’re insisting on taking even one honors course (H54).</p>
<p>Good luck - enjoy the uselessly high difficulty level with no tangible benefits! The rest of your schedule isn’t exactly a piece of cake either. I think you’re going to be very stressed your first semester. but to each his own!</p>
<p>^agree. but gta let the kid make his own mistakes. people only learn the hard way <em>shrugs</em> takes a while to shrug off that high school mentality ;)</p>
<p>To be eligible for honors in general
scholarship at graduation, a student must:
complete a minimum of 50 semester units
at the University of California, of which a
minimum of 43 units must be undertaken
for a letter grade;
complete a minimum of 30 units at
Berkeley; and
achieve a UC Berkeley GPA that ranks the
student in the College of Chemistrys top
three percent for highest honors, the next
seven percent for high honors, and the
next 10 percent for honors.</p>
<p>If anything, taking honors courses seem to NOT contribute to getting honors for the degree, since the GPA will be worse. Am i correct to say that honors are useless for all except those extremely passionate abt the subject?</p>
but to each his own!</p>