<p>How different are the two? How much harder is the former than the latter? I snagged a 5 on the AP exam and am considering the major...</p>
<p>chem majors are pretty much expected to take the honors sequence.</p>
<p>If you're a chem major, take the honors sequence. You'll learn so much more than Chem 207-208. In fact, Chem 215 is essentially everything that's in Chem 207-208. Nothing in Chem 216 is really covered in normal gen chem. </p>
<p>If you're premed or a bio major, there's no reason to take Chem 215-216. Nothing in Chem 216 is covered on the MCAT or will be useful in med school. The competition is much much better than Chem 207-208 (everyone in the class essentially had a 5 on the Chem AP test) so despite the slightly more generous curve, Chem 215-216 will be harder than Chem 207-208.</p>
<p>TAKE HONORS, take honors, take honors, take honors, can I say it more times?</p>
<p>Everyone who was in Honors enjoyed it supremely more than anyone I knew in Chem 207-208. The professor for Honors (H. Floyd Davis) 215 is AMAZING and he makes chemistry fun.</p>
<p>I convinced my friend who got a 4 on AP chem to take it with me (despite her initial hesitation because of not getting a 5) and she snagged an A in the course. If you got a 4 or a 5 on AP chem, don't even consider 207-208.</p>
<p>Even Chem 216 is taught by a really cool professor, and we are learning chemistry that Juniors learn, and the teaching style is brilliant and nothing like I've seen before.</p>
<p>Even if you aren't going to be a chem major, but need to take chem, take HONORS :)</p>
<p>/end giddy recommendation</p>
<p>Im an ED acceptee in the engineering school, looking to be a chemE and I have a LOT of chem experience and I may be able to place out of chem altogether depending on what pans out (Im still in HS, but im taking organic chemistry + lab at a local 4 year uni). Do you think I should take the Hchem sequence even if I place out of genchem? Does anyone have any experience with stuff like my situation (placing out of chem 207 and 208).</p>
<p>Well:</p>
<p>Just getting a 5 in AP Chem is enough to place out of basic chemistry requirements in the college of engineering.</p>
<p>And, no, if you are a Chemical Engineering major, you will NOT be able to place out of chem altogether. Chemical Engineers are required to take Freshmen Chem 2090-2080 (or Honors 2150-2160), Honors Physical Chemistry I and II, Physical Chemistry Lab, Experimental Organic Chemistry, and Organic Chemistry for Life Sciences. </p>
<p>Trust me, your high school chemistry experience (and even local college chemistry) is not sufficient. Our chemistry department here is amazing and extremely well regarded, and they rarely rarely take outside credit in replacement.</p>
<p>How different are the two?
Actually, I found 215 to be more AP-esque if anything, I barely remembered any of the stuff that my friends with 207 covered.</p>
<p>How much harder is the former than the latter?
It's not that much "harder", it's different. 215 is actually the equivalent of 208 to a higher level. 215 will cover virtually nothing that 207 covers in terms of theory, most of that stuff is left to 216.</p>
<p>215 = thermo, equilibrium, electro, etc.
207 = start from beginning pretty much.</p>
<p>Okay honestly, the AP exam itself really won't matter for crap that much since like what.. 50% get 5 anyway. If you like chemistry, and you're rather confident, do 215 (especially if you have had any USNCO-esque competitions, what not)</p>
<p>Just thought I should point out: 216 is really not at the level at which juniors year, I mean sure, it is basically an intro to p-chem, but the math level in 216 is pretty lame, but that's expected.</p>
<p>But 215 is a fun class, for the demos at least. Besides the demos, I kind of passed out for almost all the lectures. Don't be intimidated by the "honors" what not, it's more like AP if anything in terms of the topics covered. Honestly speaking, I didn't feel like I learned that much "new" stuff (not because I was asleep, more I was asleep because there wasn't that much new).</p>
<p>Basically... when it comes down to it, as do all physical sciences... if you're good at math, you'll do fine. (Or rather, the logic involved, not necessarily calculation).</p>