Honors program at gatech

<p>I've been admitted for fall 2008 at gatech and I am eligible for the honors program. If I'm planning to major in mechanical engineering, (any maybe a minor in aerospace) how will this honors program be different to the normal courses? How does it work? Is it a lot of extra work??</p>

<p>What are the advantages of this program? Is it better when you graduate from a honors program than graduating from the normal courses....I mean in terms of jobs and other opportunities after coming out of gatech.</p>

<p>Can this program give gatech the upper hand or a major plus..because I am trying to choose between gatech and CMU...Someone pls help!!</p>

<p>I'm considering GT honors too, so though I have no experience with the program itself yet, I can tell you what I have gathered (from info sessions and friends in the program).</p>

<p>To complete the honors program, you have to take two "honors" courses (harder versions of normal courses - mostly GenEd courses like Bio / Chem / Math). You also have to take three "special topics courses." You can also live in honors dorms, but you don't have to.</p>

<p>No one knows yet how GT Honors affects job outlook because GT honors has only existed for two years, so no one has actually graduated from it yet. I wouldn't use GT Honors as a deciding factor.</p>

<p>i'd say just go for it, if its too hard just drop out.
probably just padding for a resume, imo.</p>

<p>from what ive gathered, the classes r discussion based...and from what ive gathered u live in a special dorm and the program lasts two years...from what i understand anyways...</p>

<p>I am suddenly unsure about the acceptance to the honors program. I did get an invitation to the GT honors program when I received my acceptance letter. Does that mean I'm selected? Once I say yes, am I in? There is no further competition right? Am I still fighting for a spot in the honors program? Are people who get the invitation different from the ones who apply for it without an invitation?</p>

<p>im really confused about this too. how do u know if youre in or not?</p>

<p>I got an e-mail saying that I got in a couple weeks ago. However, a lot of my friends applied and got no e-mail. Who knows? I suggest calling the admissions office and asking about it.</p>

<p>maea...was this scenario in your case? First, you received an invitation for the HP in a card. Then, you sent them an email, that you want to be considered. Then you got an email saying that you got in...So was this what happened?? How did all of this get over couple of weeks ago?? That's fast!!
I was under the impression that if you get the card, you are in..is this true?</p>

<p>I don't think that's true. I don't know how many people get the card, but I am under the impression that the card is an invitation to apply, not to participate. </p>

<p>Your sequence of events is correct. I sent the e-mail on March 12 stating my interest in the Honors Program. I then got an e-mail from GT on March 24 that "invites me to become a member of the Georgia Tech Honors Program, beginning in the fall semester of 2008".</p>

<p>This makes me think that unless you receive that last e-mail, you aren't in. However, in the auto-reply I got when I sent my original interest-in-the-program e-mail, it said that "The HP Admissions Committee is currently reviewing files and will continue to do so until the end of April". Since it is still April, I say don't lose hope to those who haven't gotten a reply yet!</p>

<p>what happened to me was i got a card in the acceptance packet, and shot them an email saying that i would like to be considered...then a couple months later i got a letter in the mail from the honors program (literally a letter, not a packet...i freak out with small letters) that started out with "I am pleased to invite you to be a member of the GA Tech honors program..." it was a 2 page letter that described y i should be in it...blahblahblah. then they explained how they accept 120 students, and then explained how they selected them, then they said that i needed to email them in 3 weeks from the time the letter was dated if i want to reserve my spot in the program, and i could do this w/out committing to tech (if i want to attend GA Tech, which i ultimately decided not to but w/ever), hopefully that was helpful, srry this was really long lol...but i also read somewhere that they were giving the acceptances to honors program from march (although i got mine in feb..) to june, so uve still got time to notified...</p>

<p>oh yeah maea: same thing happened to me to when i shot them an email saying i wanted to do it...i was a bit confused...</p>

<p>Hey, I'm a current GT student in the honors program, so maybe I can shed some light on these questions and what not...but I guess also keep in mind that some of this is just my opinion, and like always, with anything, one should always ask around to get a better idea of what the general on consensus is, etc. etc...</p>

<p>First off, both GT and CMU are great schools. Personally I'm an out of state student, so it's not like I get in-state tuition to GT or anything. Long story short, if all is the same, in terms of I guess rep., personally I would choose CMU. Of course, it also depends on what you study, since CMU and GT are better than each other in different things. Aside from that, I think it's reasonable to find the two schools to be very comparable in lots of things (both technical schools, both have funky ratios if you will, both are on the east coast but on non-coastal cities, etc. etc.), it's just one's public and private. I guess visiting each (if you have the chance to), is probably your best bet in helping you ultimately figuring out which you like best, in my opinion.</p>

<p>Personally, in reference to what someone said in a previous post, I too, would also not use GT-Honors as a major deciding factor. Frankly, the program is really young right now, which is one reason it's called a "program", and not a "college", like how some schools with more developed honors programs might call them "Honors Colleges". Additionally, it's really not ASSSS serious nor intensive, nor time-consuming as some programs at other schools. I mean, like, that doesn't mean it's easy or anything, it's just, I feel it's reasonable to assume that at some schools, anything "honors", is hella-harder and takes up way too much time.</p>

<p>You don't have to live in the dorm (as far as I know), but I mean, unless you're like an athlete, or you already have friends you know you want to room with, you might as well, and just get an experience for what it's like; it's a good community feeling, and you might like end up meeting kids you like better. If you don't end up liking it, you can always change at the end of the year (or perhaps the semester-mark); additionally, I'm under the impression that even if you already want to live with some friends that are going to school with you, you can do that AND live in the honors dorm. In terms of the housing process, you would just be "bringing them in [into the honors dorm", effectively. No biggie or whatever...</p>

<p>You have to take a few honors "core classes". What this is, is usually there will be a section(s) set aside for courses that you'd usually generally take as just general requirements when you get here (things that any student would take first, like calculus (of various levels), chemistry, physics, etc.). What you get from that is class sizes that are smaller, possibly more motivated professors/TA's/fellow students. I mean, generally, that's all good stuff I would say. More attention from a professor that's probably better, and more students in your class that are also interested in doing well. Are they harder? Well, I would say they are certainly not easier, or rather, they are at least as difficult, if not more so, than a standard course or section that is non-honors-program. Also, note that a "Honors Course", is not necessarily the same thing as an "Honors Program Course". An "Honors Course", is just a generalized designation that I'm sure every college and university uses, to denote an "accelerated, more hardcore" version of a course, and all that jazz. These "Honors Program" courses you're taking are not necessarily "Honors Courses". Basically, "Honors" and "Honors Program" are two different things/designations, though occasionally, the two will intersect (meaning maybe an "Honors Program" course/section you're taking, happens to be an "Honors Course").</p>

<p>Aside from that, you need to complete 3 seminar courses. These are 3 credit, discussion based courses, that you take when you can (generally starting from your Freshmen Spring). I mean, you take when you can, as in, if you go off and co-op, or study abroad, I mean, obviously, you're not going to take these courses, because you simply can't. They'll usually work with you, but I mean, if you're instead trying to duck out of these courses, I mean, obviously they're going to be a little disappointed at that. Of course, that's only reasonable right? Since by applying and if choosing to join the program, you're agreeing to take these courses. It's like if you told GT you're coming, but you told them you didn't want to take Physics and Math or something like that. I mean, GT would be like, ".........wait, what?" Anyways, yeah. Difficulty? Not so much, but not necessarily a walk in the park either. Interesting? Generally. They have like 8-10 every semester (not for summer semesters right now), and you get to pick and choose which you want (obviously some type of first come, first serve type thing goes on, but that's only logical). The professors I would say are better than average, as after all, they have to volunteer to teach these courses, so no professor is being schlepped into teaching a seminar they don't want to (I think). Is it a lot of work? It depends. Some are quite the female dog, and just suck. Others are a more reasonable, but once again, when you're picking courses, and they list out course descriptions, they'll probably tell you what the course is about, and how much work it is. So don't really worry, not so many surprises. Though for the record though, I should mention that at least for the other kids I've talked to, at least some people are a little averse to these courses now. In all honesty, they are a little difficult to fit into your major usually (as like a major-related elective), and don't necessarily contribute to your major that much either, academically, and intellectually. If you're really like, gung-ho about your major, getting through it as fast as possible, and only taking things that are directly related, you may find these seminar courses, inconvenient. Other than that, realize, they should usually be at least moderately interesting (if not more), will be a relatively smaller class, the professor will be generally better, the work won't be that hard compared to a normal 3-credit class, and that besides major-electives, you have like 12 credits or so (depending on your major), worth of free-electives. To give you an idea of what seminar classes are like, here are some of the courses given this Spring 2008:</p>

<p>Chem 2803: Origins of Life
Coa 4803: Art & Architecture in the Muslim World
Eas 2803: Energy, Environment, & Society
Econ 4813: Economics of Sustainability
Ece 2803: Failures & Disasters: Society/Technology Interaction</p>

<p>Ahh okay I'm too lazy to type the rest, look around on the Honors Program website to find the rest.</p>

<p>Oh, and btw, "Core Classes", the first type of class I mentioned change every semester. For example, some semesters they might offer English 2, others they won't, and will offer MatLab, etc. They usually figure out which to offer depending on what most people that still need to take core classes need to take, professor/TA availability, etc.</p>

<p>Can you drop out of the Honors Program? I mean, yeah, but really I mean, as with a lot of things, maybe it's not necessarily how you should think of it. In short, realize that there is indeed an out, but I mean, that shouldn't even occur to you when you decide to join, I would think. Right? I mean, think about it.</p>

<p>How do you know if you're accepted to the honors program? You should get a separate letter, distinctly from the honors program. I don't know if this comes in the general acceptance package, or if they mail the letter in a separate envelope, but the letter should not be confusing. Like there should be no mistake that it says "Honors Program" at least a few places on the letter. Actually, there might be a few other ways of notification, but I think the letter is the pretty general way. If you're not sure, of course, it probably doesn't hurt to call or email the office. I don't mean the admissions office. I mean the honors office. The contact info is listed on the GT Honors Program website. Call and ask if you're not sure, it can't hurt.</p>

<p>Finally, in a more pragmatic sense, (this is just my opinion), I mean, it's not like the program is a super super super amazing good thing (as in how becoming like...a Rhodes Scholar or something, would be a super super super amazing good thing), but between good and bad, I (and I think most people), would find it to be a good thing, or at least more of a good thing, than a bad thing. Some smaller classes, some possibly better professor, some possibly more hardworking people, possibly a closer type of academic advisement, and if you're super-enterprising, I guess, another thing to write on your resume.</p>

<p>It's really not THAT serious, but that being said, that doesn't mean that if you decide to join, it should be like, totally nilly-willy, you know what I mean? Don't join just because it looks good and you really don't give a flying fugg. I mean, you should be committed (like with anything you join, or commit to, like when you start playing soccer for your school back in HS or something), and you should want it.</p>

<p>I hope that answers everything. If you have any more objective questions, like what and how many classes to take or what not (that sort of stuff), it probably doesn't hurt to call or email the office directly, as they would have the best answers for that sort of thing.</p>

<p>Best of luck!</p>

<p>our friend's child got an email telling her that she was accepted. the postcard in the acceptance package was not an acceptance into the program. emails went out of young ladies over the last few weeks and then they started going out to the guys. it will continue through may since some that got in will not go to gt and they will pick others for those spots.</p>

<p>hey wildbean 15, how hard is it to get admitted for the honors program? Does everyone get the card? Do you have any idea what percentage of the card winners eventually get accepted for the program?</p>

<p>I actually don't? I'm not totally familiar with this confusing "card" and "letter" and "email" business, I was under the impression that it was pretty straight forward. In all honesty, and I actually mean this, the best answers you can get in regards to that question, would be to call the honors office, the contact information is listed on the honors program website, at Georgia</a> Institute of Technology :: Honors Program.</p>

<p>Hey guys, I am a first year just finishing up the honors program. I lived in Howell for Fall and Spring, but the residence hall will be closed next year. It's being housed in Matheson next year, I believe? I can answer any questions you guys might have.</p>

<p>Basically, living in the honors dorm IS required if you decide to accept the invitation. The invitation is usually very informal (as you guys said, a card or an e-mail), and only those invited to the honors program get this e-mail. HP had a lot of pros and a lot of cons for me, so I will let you guys decide for yourselves and just list them out.</p>

<p>PROS:
- Living in the honors dorm. You get to be really close with these people. Unless you go Greek (which I did), they will probably be your closest friends. Or at least, that was what I observed.</p>

<ul>
<li><p>Howell rooms. I have no shame in saying that I firmly believe Howell was the best residence hall on East campus. Whenever I would have someone over to visit my room, they would ALWAYS comment on how huge it was compared to theirs. Our hallways were cleaner (I have been inside Smith, Brown, and Towers for comparison), and our Hall Council was VERY active. I don't know what Matheson is like, so I can't comment, but I do know that it is much closer to academic buildings (classes) than the other dorms.</p></li>
<li><p>Classes. The HP core classes are a lot smaller than the other core classes. Generally, they tend to get better professors to teach them, too. My HP English class had about 10 people in it, and our professor was very engaging and humorous. Because you're taking classes with people on your hallway, it is so convenient to walk down the hall and work on homework together or walk to class together.</p></li>
<li><p>Networking. If you accept your invitation, you will likely become very close to Dr. Nobles, Dr. Halka, and Ms. Leonard. They are the three main people in charge of running the honors program, and they will help you with ANYTHING you need. They are very good at getting overrides for classes, advising, and research opportunities. Not to mention that they are all very nice people, too!</p></li>
</ul>

<p>CONS:
- The 3 hour seminar classes. While this may look like a pro to a lot of people at first, most of my fellow HP peers agree that the seminar classes are a pain in the butt. A waste of time, even. They are most definitely NOT an easy A (in fact, I got my first B at Tech in my CHEM 2803 Origins of Life class), and they can look like extra junk on your schedule. I got very frustrated last semester because I wanted to stay below 16 credit hours, and I couldn't take a class I wanted because I had to take the seminar class instead. </p>

<ul>
<li>GT 1000 HP. Don't take the HP section of GT 1000. In fact, don't take GT 1000 at all, unless you really want that 1-hour A. It is a complete waste of time.</li>
</ul>

<p>And that's pretty much it. Obviously, I have very mixed feelings about being in the Honors Program, but I am very glad that it allowed me to meet the people that I did and live in Howell. </p>

<p>Oh, and before I forget: Selection for the Honors Program has very little to do with grades and SAT scores. They take everything into account, and selection is very holistic. I once asked one of the people who run it what made them choose us, and the simple response I got was "You had a passion, and that came through in your application."</p>

<p>Vague, huh? Well, apparently a lot of it has to do with how creative your essays were. If you entertained them or had a unique writing style AND impressive grades, you're in. It definitely does not mean anything about how you will do at Tech, however. HP students are not smarter than anyone, and there were definitely a lot of slackers in the program this year.</p>