<p>ASU buys NMF with scholarship and housing money and is an aggressive marketer that has largely failed to deliver with respect to course offerings, housing,& HAD a grading policy which resulted in the loss of many,many,many scholarships. The folks at Barrett make false claims- such as stating that Barrett is the only honors college using law profs for honors courses- which are so ridicuously incorrect that they are either grossly mis informed or worse. Many wondered if the scholarship loss WAS by design as sophomores have little chance to transfer and receive financial aid or scholarship money. The outrage was so pervasive that Barrett had to change grading policies and standards for scholarship retention. ASUs Barrett's Honors College now-starting next year-is charging honors students to be in Barretts. Footnote 18 & footnote 19 courses make up a large % of "honors" courses at Barrett, and they are not true honors courses. That being written, and it has been written several times on this web site by me and by several Barrett's students, any honors program or college is better than none unless it involves fraudulent type "promises". U. of Arizona is what you make of it, but lacks true honors housing- mixed "honors" halls- and lacks the structure found in top 25 or so honors programs and colleges. ASUs problems are and have been well known for the past two years outside of this web site. Barretts keeps promising to start building new housing after multiple delays. ASU and Arizona are discussed because both are frequently mentioned on this site.</p>