<p>and i meant internet in the way of personel information but that does not matter now.</p>
<p>Pro- URM. </p>
<p>Uh... thats about it, but not all schools will give you that status. Seriously, check with the schools they can help you more. </p>
<p>Just out of curiosity, why did your grandfather and father graduate 60 years apart?</p>
<p>why do you feel the need to lie about your race online, you aren't black.</p>
<p>If so you wouldn't be asking the pros and cons of being "af american" (specifically because you aren't african american because your not american)</p>
<p>^^
I'm REALLY not asking this to sound rude, I swear. But if you're black from England would you be something like African-English or Asian-English? I've just always kind of wondered.</p>
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<li>I'm not lying about my race, my white grandfather married late to an African Women, there son(very light colored but not white) went to a well known british college then went to oxford, he married a black, dominant gene BLACK.</li>
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<p>2.I have British citizenship and BY APPLYING TIME WILL BE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN, therefore having dual citizenship.</p>
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<li>Legacy is a hook for Oxford and POSSIBLY NOT OFFICIALLY a hook to another school. URM is a hook, i'm black and live in the US. </li>
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<p>It's fine to think that Ivies are fair and dont care about legacys to other schools but anyone in their right mind would know that seeing a line of smart ancestors is interesting and may make it more likely to accept that person.</p>
<p>Didn't we already establish that Oxford does NOT consider legacy status in admissions, therefore how would it be a hook?</p>
<p>Sorry for the stupid ques, but what exactly is the full form of URM?</p>
<p>under represented minority what are the baenifits of being african american? how many posts does it take to answer one question.</p>
<p>I believe it was already answered.</p>
<p>Tell me where i see where it says the what the benefits of being an african american URM are, and when you're done looking someone post them. and since i'd be using an American application there would be a part for me to put legacies despite the fact that oxford doesn't consider legacies. i'm only applying to one school out of the US so.....</p>
<p>Just to put an end to the legacy nonsense, a legacy AGAIN is "an applicant to or student at a school that was attended by his or her parent." ATTENDED BY HIS OR HER PARENT. </p>
<p>Therefore, your "legacy" status would ONLY apply to Oxford unless your mother or other grandparents attended a school that you are applying for. </p>
<p>And as for URM advantages, well, google is your friend.</p>
<p>only if mother or grandparents? why not fathers anyway i have a legacy to oxford as posted at the beginning of this thread.</p>
<p>Your father graduated from Oxford which doesn't use legacies. </p>
<p>I'm done with this.</p>
<p>If you cannot understand this concept, you might not belong at any college for that matter.</p>
<p>Dont talk crap, i said i'll use an American application which has a section to put legacies. how is oxford not going to see this? </p>
<p>if you cant understand this concept, you shouldn't even be mmaking comments like that.</p>
<p>This thread is really stupid and you are a complete idiot. </p>
<p>Legacies aren't hooks - they help in an EXTREMELY SMALL WAY, unless your father has donated usually upwards of $1,000,000, but you would then have the same chance as a non-legacy who also donated $1,000,000. Legacies are not a major point unless you apply ED.</p>
<p>And if Oxford doesn't use legacies, then no one cares. </p>
<p>Tens of Thousands of kids likely have ivy league legacies, but very few are offered acceptance. The overwhelming majority of legacies are rejected because a person who's more qualified than a legacy will ALWAYS get in over a legacy (unless in special circumstances where the legacy wouldn't matter anyways).</p>
<p>P.S., even if legacies were important, Harvard wouldn't care AT ALL if every member of your family has graduated from oxford since 1500 (but that may make an interesting essay, however). Legacies are school specific. Harvard legacy won't help at oxford, cornell, princeton, or even CUNY. It helps only at the corresponding school.</p>
<p>Come on, it's obvious this guy is trolling around, he just wants to frustrate you. Now if it turns out that this guy actually isn't a troll, then that's pretty sad that he can't understand the concept that a legacy at Oxford will not help in any way at any other school in the world.</p>
<p>"...anyone in their right mind would know that seeing a line of smart ancestors is interesting and may make it more likely to accept that person."</p>
<p>Or they might think of regression to the mean.</p>
<p>why are we still dignifying this with responses?</p>
<p>yeah well i dont have time to waste trolling, this is a serious thread that i asked 2 questions in. i got an answer i was suprised at and said why i was suprised, sue me and dont reply.</p>