<p>So let me see if I have this right: Hotchkiss LAX girls are 7-1, the Deerfield LAX girls are 7-4 and the Hotchkiss girls beat Deerfield 11-9 straight up on the field of play… but some group of half-brains asserts that the Deerfield girls LAX team is really, really, really somehow better than Hotchkiss? Gee, this is a tough one…who are we going to believe here: the scoreboard, the records and our eyes or some pack of goobers who refuse to accept reality? If you are not just goofing around here, hyeonhoy, I truly hope that Deerfield helps you with your reasoning abilities once you enroll this fall.</p>
<p>In yesterdays final home track meet of the season and the final track meet to take place on Hemingway Track, Hotchkiss claimed overwhelming victories over Suffield and Taft for both the boys and girls teams. For the fifth straight year, the boys team went undefeated, ending with a perfect 9-0 record. Since 2005, the team has complied a record of 51 wins and 0 losses, the greatest winning streak in Hotchkiss history. The tightest race this season was back on April 25th when Hotchkiss narrowly topped Loomis, 79-74. The Founders League Championship is coming up this weekend and it looks to be an exciting battle between the Bearcats and the Pelicans.</p>
<p>The girls will not only be defending their title at the Founders League Championship, but they will look to make it four in a row. The Lady Bearcats finished the season with an impressive 7-1 record, the lone loss coming at the hands of Loomis by a mere four points. Hotchkiss was also on the receiving end of such a victory back in early April when they defeated Choate by three points, so the Founders meet looks to be an exciting match up for these three teams.</p>
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<p>…and, by the way, the Hotchkiss boys track team crushed Deerfield this spring 79-28 and the girls team rolled the Green 74-33. </p>
<p>Oh, but wait, these scores, records and thrashings are a mere mirage because we haven’t heard yet from the men behind the curtains pulling the levers and slapping together the “rankings”! Not until we hear from these great wizards, can we proclaim who really and truly has the better program here between Hotchkiss and Deerfield… or so I have been told.</p>
<p>Since when are the New England tennis champs not number one ? Me thinks someone is fudging these “rankings” Hotchkiss clearly has the best tennis team for boys and girls and looks set to claim the new england title this year as well. I mean how could deerfield be better than hotchkiss at tennis when we beat you 6-1 ? We also beat Taft 4-3 … And we are still the reigning new england champs for both the boys and girls teams … something seems odd. Could you please provide a link to your “rankings”.</p>
<p>Hyeonhoy: Yeah, I’d like to know too.</p>
<p>Here’s this:</p>
<p>In the spring of 2004, the Hotchkiss girls varsity tennis team went a dismal 1-10. However, since that time, the team has gone in only one direction, and that is up! Over the past four years, the girls team has lost only six matches, winning four consecutive Founders League Championships and a New England Championship, all while racking up 43 wins. Hopes are high for yet another banner season this spring. </p>
<p>And right now they have won nine in a row! :]</p>
<p>Hey Kafka…I think Choate is hoping to take that title away this year (placed 2d last year…) :)</p>
<p>I got my records from the Deerfield Scroll. I was just telling you what It had said.
Maybe It’d been what it was at the time cuase it was just the beginning of the season, I don’t know.
“Gee, this is a tough one…who are we going to believe here: the scoreboard, the records and our eyes or some pack of goobers who refuse to accept reality?”
-What are you talking about? I WAS referring to the scoreboard.
By the way, please don’t bring out all this reasoning skill crap again. I don’t want to get involved in this all over again.</p>
<p>If you don’t want to get into the fray, stay away from the fire. </p>
<p>As for the fray, it was you, hyeonhoy, who stated “just for correction”…as if I had made a mistake in need of correcting…that the DA girls lacross team was better that the H girls because some unnamed rankings placed DA above H. You asserted such “correction” in spite of the fact that I had pointed out that H was 7-1, DA was 7-4, H had beaten DA by the score of 11-9 and, therefore, was the better team. And now you continue to maintain that DA is better than H on the “scoreboard”. What “scoreboard” are you talking about?</p>
<p>I don’t know what your scoreboard is. As for mine, it is where they keep the “score”. Here, the score between H and DA was 11-9. My “scoreboard” (like all scoreboards) shows the score. That is why they call it a scoreboard. Simple stuff. What does your “scoreboard” show? Where they keep some bogus rankings? If so, that is some sort of poll or survey. It is not the “score”. (Again, the score was 11-9.) Simple stuff. Reasonable stuff.</p>
<p>Whoops. I used that “reasoning skill crap”. Sorry. ( Note: You might want to start boning up on this “reasoning skill crap” for the coming fall. I understand that Deerfield uses it and likes it a lot.)</p>
<p>nop, you should really develop your “reading skills” then, because I’d provided the source.
unnamed ranking??? the scroll is a Deerfield newspaper. and I’d said already that It may have been the rank at the time ( and the rank was based on the number of wins/losses). I know you have such a eager to defend/boast about your school and all, but I’ve had enough of your wordy ‘reasonings’ I barely care about. I don’t give a crap on by how much hotchkiss beat DA, and it’s just pathetic how much time you spend refuting an 8th grade boy on a forum.</p>
<p>Ah, I see. “Records” are the same thing as “rankings”, according to your post. Okay, although this interchange of words seems a bit unusual and arkward, I understand you now; you might, however, want to make a note to work on your “writing skills”. ( It is the duty of the writer, not the reader, to make his/her writing clear. This is a good rule to remember.)</p>
<p>I am pleased that you are going to Deerfield. Good luck to you. You do have some spuck. It should serve you well there from time to time.</p>
<p>Whoops…make that “spunk”, not “spuck”. I need to work on my “proofreading skills”. Sorry.</p>
<p>Woah! Hjeonhoy and Toombs, can we ease up a bit? Both are great schools and both have excellent athletic teams. Hjeonhoy, those “rankings” were simply the Scroll reporting (very) early season results and do not reflect the current standings in the slightest. The girls’ lacrosse teams had a very close, exciting contest. The Hotchkiss track program is very strong…as is the Deerfield crew program. The boy’s lacrosse game was incredibly close! Can we agree that both schools have great coaches and athletes and move on? The argument over who is better in sports is not a productive one, they’re both great (along with countless other schools!).</p>
<p>Salisbury (10-1) v. undefeated DA this Wednesday at The Steak.
Suggest all who want to see top flight lacrosse be there.
fif wouldn’t miss this one.</p>
<p>Indeed, hola3. Please see my early posts on this thread. There is no question that Hotchkiss and DA are quite similar in athletic programs and enjoy high achievement in those areas. At one time, hyeonhoy tended to disagree on this proposition. After some discussion, I think that all now, in general, stand in accord on this point.</p>
<p>I’d corrected my earlier post before, and know Hotchkiss athletic program is terrific.
“Hjeonhoy, those “rankings” were simply the Scroll reporting (very) early season results and do not reflect the current standings in the slightest.”
- I mentioned that several times before that It may just be the record at the time.
I think the word "ranking’’ had been causing a lot of trouble here, but it was just based on the record at the time. well obviously i didn’t keep track of the later records, and you guys should know I’m not trying to diss on H</p>
<p>As usual fif was right on the money. DA went down yesterday at the “steak”.</p>
<p>When push came to shove, I chose Deerfield over Hotchkiss. Personally, I think Deerfield’s campus is much prettier (don’t eat me), especially when it comes to the main building. Both schools are good at different sports each year, and are probably the two tops in athletics. Deerfield is amazing at lax and Hotchkiss rocks at football. The Koch Natatorium at Deerfield is reeallly great especially if you swim. I think that Deerfield is typically considered slightly more prestigious, but don’t make a decision on that. I’m a math person, and the math class I took at Deerfield for revisit day was far superior. I would say they both have pretty equal course offerings, but I like Deerfield’s flexibility. An extremely tight community existed that was absent at Hotchkiss. Sit down meals are awesome…and it really turned me off when the kids at Hotchkiss were talking about how sit down meals don’t work, especially since I had experienced it working fabulously the day prior. Kids at both were very nice and welcoming, but DA students seemed happier. You asked them if they loved Deerfield and they answered with an astoundingly firm “Yes.” At Hotchkiss, it was kind of like “Yeah, we have our issues, but sure.” Major red flag–when asked what she would change about Hotchkiss, she replied with: “I would make it so that the kids who aren’t happy here would be.” :/</p>
<p>Sorry for that kind of rant, and go with where you feel the most comfortable at.</p>
<p>I didn’t find Deerfields campus very aesthetically pleasing, but that’s just an opinion. The admissions building place was nice, but I found myself walking through random dark and dirty stair cases to get to classes and stuff. IDK maybe my tour guide didn’t know that he was suppose to show me the best places.</p>
<p>And I’m an actor, the theatre was kind of pathetic. But yea, overall the community seemed amazing and I can tell why you like Deerfield. I’ve never visited Hotchkiss so I have no opinion on that.</p>
<p>College Matriculation -</p>
<p>BS-1:<br>
Year: 2002-2006 10 Most Popular College Choices (# Enrolled)<br>
Brown 45
Harvard 41
UPenn 38
Georgetown 34
Middlebury 33
Cornell 32
Yale 32
Princeton 27
Columbia 22
Williams 19 </p>
<p>BS-2:
Year: 2002-2005 10 Most Popular College Choices (# Enrolled)<br>
Georgetown 30
Middlebury 22
Cornell 19
Univ of PA 19
Bowdoin 18
Duke 18
Yale 18
Harvard 17
Brown 15
Trinity </p>
<p>And BS-1 has happy kids, tighter community, never have the “cut-throat” reputation, No Class on Saturdays, slightly lower SSAT scores for entering students but more selective.</p>
<p>You make the choice which BS or “factory” is producing better products…</p>
<p>(disclaimer: adjustment needs to be made in above numbers, one is for a 5 year duration while the other is for 4 years)</p>
<p>This case is now formally closed</p>