<p>Well, Genre is not alone: I know at least two ppl who have similar scores; both scored a little over 2000 after taking review courses, then they took the ACT for the first time a few months later, one got 35 with no prep, while the other got 34 with minimum prep. Yeh,the ACT awards quick thinkers. If you are good at math and science, take the ACT!</p>
<p>^exactly my point.
All the ACT-defenders should stop demanding “hard data” that they know isn’t recorded anywhere. Bluebayou, do you really expect me to have some sort of online record of the SAT scores and comparative ACT scores of every student in the country? That’s ridiculous. </p>
<p>Instead, all you ACT-defenders should start opening your eyes and just accepting the fact that the ACT is easier. Colleges know it, and that’s why the ACT is valued less than the SAT.</p>
<p>Yes, we expect you to have actual data that at least indicates you might be correct. Because there is actual data that indicates you are probably WRONG: about 1 in 5000 get a 2400, and about 1 in 3500 get a 36. That’s not a significant difference, even when you ignore the fact that ACT composite scores don’t include the essay.</p>
<p>jomudd, if I understand you correctly two students that had prepped for the SAT and then took review courses. Plus, probably had also taken PSAT and perhaps prep for this test. Then took the SAT. So after all this study they take the ACT and scored higher. Yet in your mind they never actually prepped for the ACT. Interesting…other seems to have the same impression. I however feel that they have taken two or three practice test and a review course for the ACT/SAT.<br>
Wonder why many colleges that require the SAT 2 waive this requirement if you take the easy ACT. Guess because it is less valued by the colleges lol</p>
<p>Ivies somewhat acknowledge this in superscoring the SAT but not the ACT.</p>
<p>yes, the ACT favors fast test takers and people with strong high school preparation. the SAT is more like an IQ test in that a handful of middle schoolers have aced(meaning 2400) it, though most test takers are initially screwed. there are a lot of resources to learn the question types and the format, more so than you’ll find for the ACT.</p>
<p>Wow, this thread has gotten rather counterproductive. Lets clear some things out. </p>
<p>Practice tests obviously aren’t the same as the real thing. The OP knows this and people don’t need to attack him since he really isn’t bragging.</p>
<p>Secondly, The whole ACT vs. SAT debate is rather pointless since we, barring we are not college admissions directors, don’t know how schools weight different tests. The “official” response is that both tests are weighed equally, so lets leave it at that.</p>
<p>People really need to stop taking this so seriously. They think if they can defend their respective test on an internet forum colleges will magically start preferring one test over the other.</p>
<p>The OP’s post at the start of the thread seem to equate practice tests to the real thing. He didn’t take the real thing, but assumes he would get the same composite on the real thing. </p>
<p>I got good scores on both, so I don’t really care which one is preferred.
And I agree with Gator that officially both are respected. Which is something the OP finds ridiculous apparently judging by this thread.
The point is, some people do better on one than the other. Go figure.</p>
<p>my real SAT score was higher than my scores on any of the 8 practice tests i did. i don’t see a problem with expecting what he achieves in practice.</p>
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<p>Ah, now I feel better. And cooljazz, I see that you’re still spreading innuendo with absolutely no facts to back it up. Guys, please do yourselves a favor and READ the national SAT and ACT reports. What you’ll find is neither test is demonstrably “harder” or “better” than the other. That’s why all 3,000 colleges and universities in the U.S. will accept either one.</p>
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<p>I did well on a practice ACT with no prep! -> I could easily do the same on the real thing! -> The ACT is soooooo easy! It must be easy for everyone! -> Let’s make a thread!</p>
<p>Not really a logical sequence of thoughts.</p>
<p>This thread is 10% logic and 90% bickering and name-calling.</p>
<p>This part is for jay only, other people don’t have to read this.</p>
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<p>@Everyone else, thank you for the comments.
I guess I just prefer the ACT more. It fits me better, I think the absence of the vocabulary section made a huge difference to me.</p>
<p>I think though, that the SAT is harder than the ACT in some respects, as one person mentioned, I’ve never seen anyone with a higher SAT than their ACT equivalent. And the only thing (in my opinion) that maybe harder for people taking the ACT is the long sections and the short times. Excuse my naiveness, I didn’t mean to come off as arrogant to anyone, I was just shocked to see how different my ACT score was from my SAT and just wanted to see if this was typical.</p>
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<p>Yes, I do expect you to support what you say – this is a college forum after all. If you posted such unsupported opinions in a college paper…</p>
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<p>Again, more unsupported opinion. But, more importantly, it defies logic. It is in EVERY colleges’ best interest to use only the highest test scores – it’s good for USNews, their alums, their bond holders, their PR machine. Why would they want to value the ACT any less?</p>
<p>I did answer your question. Multiple times.
Look, I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings or something because you seem very upset and I’m not sure why. No need for name-calling honestly.
I typed ‘section’ when I meant ‘test’. Sorry, typo lol. I apologize for all the anguish it apparently caused you.
I could argue with you, but I won’t because you are worked up enough for the both us and then some…
And feel free to post another post calling me pathetic or whatever you feel you need to do.
I wish you the best of luck with everything anyways lol. </p>
<p>Everyone should just simmer down, take a breather. People getting so worked up!</p>
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<p>I agree! I read through this whole thread and was laughing to myself…</p>
<p>Which test is apparently “easier” depends on the person. I thought that that was obvious. People who are very versed in English grammar and reading will have a good time with the SAT (As it only has CR, Writing, and Math with no Science). People like me who are very logical thinkers will have more fun with the ACT (Math AND Science, also I guess the English section could kinda be added because it’s just grammar). It is the PERSON, not the test. So really… find something better to argue about.</p>
<p>If you want to go by the numbers, the concordance tables equate an SAT 1500-1600 (CR + M only) with an ACT composite of 34-36. </p>
<p>In 2008, 65,035 of the 1,518,859 students who took the SAT scored between 1500-1600 on CR + M. That works out to 4.28%</p>
<p>In 2008, 9,658 of the 1,421,941 students who took the ACT received a composite score of 34-36. That works out to .68%.</p>
<p>Seems to me that these numbers ought to quiet down those of you who believe that the SAT is “harder” than the ACT. The numbers say that it just ain’t so.</p>
<p>that’s hardly the case jay
i was just helping you because you seem to have an inability to read
but whatever, its cool.</p>
<p>i find it really hard to believe that only .68% of ACT takers got between a 34-36. I’ve met alot of people between a 34-36, I thought it would be definitely be higher. Maybe around a 5% Where did you get these numbers from?</p>
<p>From the 2008 national score reports for both tests. I’ll post the links momentarily. The numbers don’t lie – they are what they are.</p>
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<p>For me it’s believable. You may know a lot of people, but that is only a few out of 1.5 million students. I know a few also… I know a kid who got a 36, but he is crazy smart.</p>
<p>Here you go:</p>
<p><a href=“http://professionals.collegeboard.com/profdownload/Total_Group_Report.pdf[/url]”>Higher Education Professionals | College Board; Look at Table 5</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.act.org/news/data/08/pdf/National2008.pdf[/url]”>http://www.act.org/news/data/08/pdf/National2008.pdf</a> Look at Table 2.1</p>