<p>HS: Top 10 public in the state. Sends ~10 kids to Ivies every year and tons more to top schools. Oh yeah, also sends 20-30 kids to NYU every year. ~10 got into Stern alone last year.
GPA: ~3.3-3.4 UW (horrible I know T_T upward trend though) 4.0 UC weighted capped, 4.09 UC weighted uncapped
Rank: HS doesn't do rank
SAT: 2250/1510 single sitting, 2290/1540 superscore
SAT II: 800s on chem and math iic
AP: 5s on chem, calc ab, english lang&comp, bio, and music theory
College courses: A in Intro to Business during jr year
Senior sched: 4 APs (econ, stat, calc bc, lit)
Total APs: 8 including sr year</p>
<p>ECs/volunteer/other crap:
-Piano 9 years. I play competitively and I won a bunch of competitions (internationally too) and awards. I played in Carnegie Hall multiple times. I have also tutored kids since 9th grade, and I perform for a nearby senior center.
-Violin 7 years. Played in school orchestra since 4th grade and started playing in the HS's chamber orchestra since 10th grade
-Vice president of academic league 3 years
-Breakdance 2 years. Started at the end of sophomore year. I performed a couple of times at school events. Also did performances in China during the summer and got invited to several middle schools to perform and teach dance to the kids.
-Interned at Credit Suisse for several weeks summer before senior year. Traded stock on my own (made some moneyz yay), and learned a lot of stuff from my mentor, a proprietary trader.
-Did research in a Rutgers bio lab for 2 years, 4 weeks each
-50+ hours of volunteer at an environmental center
-~100 hours at Chinese school
-20 hours helping dem. candidates run for election for our township committee
Teacher recs: The teachers who I asked like me a lot, so they should be good. Also my GC rec should be really great since he knows me very well.
Other notes:
-School has grade deflation, and that'll probably be addressed in the school profile
-Usually around 60 kids apply to NYU each year, and I'm guessing at least 20 kids will apply to Stern. I should be either the strongest applicant in my school for Stern, or one of the strongest. It all depends on whether some Ivy-hopefuls might use Stern as a "safety" or not. </p>
<p>Also, would anyone mind chancing me for my other schools? </p>
<p>UCLA
UC Berkeley
UMich
Carnegie Mellon
Cornell CALS
UVA
Georgetown
Rutgers
Boston University
Upenn (lmao...)
Princeton (if my parents want to spend $70 on a rejection letter, so be it)</p>
<p>His SAT is pretty high, especially superscore. Average is 1450…his is almost 100 points over. About 200 new freshman go to NYU Stern with less than 3.5, so you have a chance.
Your school is also competitive.</p>
<p>There’s really no way to do the math: Stern had a 23% acceptance rate, and 9% were under 3.5 (3.3 median under that). So you can’t just divide the numbers to say your chance is minute because we don’t know the circumstances of the applicants. For all I know, out of the 7K applied, only 1000 could have had low GPAs. 200 accepted/1000 applied = 20% rate for the GPA. It could be even more…I doubt many low GPAs app to Stern thinking they’ll get rejected. 200 accepted out of 500 (probably not this low though) is almost 50%! Who knows?</p>
<p>Averages are not accurate - for many reasons. Instead, look at score ranges. His score are above the middle 50%, true. But not by much. </p>
<p>I don’t know what you’re looking at for your stats though, so I can’t judge that. The stats I’m looking at say 7% had a GPA lower than 3.5; whereas 59% had a GPA of 3.75 or higher</p>
<p>Given a 23% acceptance rate to Stern
And given that of the incoming class only 7% had GPAs lower than 3.5…
Assuming 100% yield, that’s an almost 1.5% acceptance rate?
But NYU’s yield is 39%?
Assume that doing that math, 18% of those accepted had a GPA of 3.5 or lower (I’m using the 7% actual to the 39% yield to get 18%).<br>
So that’s… 4.14% (roughly) get accepted to Stern with a GPA of 3.5 or lower. </p>
<p>Which, drawing logical conclusions says that getting into stern with under a 3.5 is quite difficult and is only done under exceptional circumstances. Unless you want to say that a 4.14% acceptance rate isn’t ‘exceptional circumstances’? So like I said, high reach.</p>
<p>Yeah, I still don’t get how they report your GPA. I asked the adcom at Stern what the avg accept GPA was, and she said “B+/A-”…converting to a 3.7/4.</p>
<p>Also, 4.14% get into Stern with a low GPA, but this is out of all applicants. 4.4% out of 7K applicants.</p>
<p>We dont know the per GPA acceptance. I’m sure many of the low GPA profiles had something to show off, otherwise they wouldn’t app. I don’t think you can say 4.14 because there could have been a very small pool of sub 3.5 and for all we know they could have rejected some 3.5+ and accepted a higher rate of sub 3.5s due to other circumstances.</p>
<p>That’s weird. I have a B (85) just 3% less than a B+ and my GPA is a 3.3.</p>
<p>4.14% assume perfect proportionality as is reported by Stern. So it’s accurate as one can be when dealing with Stern admissions. </p>
<p>“Also, 4.14% get into Stern with a low GPA, but this is out of all applicants. 4.4% out of 7K applicants.”
What is that statement supposed to mean? 4.14% who apply to Stern with a sub 3.5 GPA would, assuming perfect proportionality, get in. I don’t understand the point of the statement after that - 4.4% out of 7k?</p>
<p>How can we assume perfect proportions? You did your entire calculations based from general acceptance rate to Stern, a 23%. This reflects all students: 23% of all students applying were accepted. The pool is 7K.</p>
<p>Doing your math you got the percentage accepted into Stern under a 3.5…assuming equal proportionality.</p>
<p>But we have not broken down the 23% in the first place. It could be specifically that:</p>
<p>From the 23% accepted:</p>
<ul>
<li>50% of all 3.75+ were accepted</li>
<li>20% of all 3.5-3.75 were accepted</li>
<li>35% of all sub 3.5 were accepted</li>
</ul>
<p>This is taking in account each GPA range has it’s own pool of applicants.</p>
<p>If it was directly proportional (how can you assume?), you’d be 100% right.</p>
<p>The acceptance rate to Stern is 23%. Meaning of those student who apply to Stern, 23% are admitted.</p>
<p>Of those 23% who decided to attend,
7% of them had a GPA less than 3.5</p>
<p>Assuming 100% of people who got into stern do actually, in fact, attend Stern the acceptance rate would be 1.5%</p>
<p>But, the yield rate to NYU is not 100%, it’s 39%. </p>
<p>So… Given that only (roughly) 39% of student who are accepted attend NYU, you have to compensate for the yield rate.</p>
<p>So… If 7% of students have a 3.5 GPA who currently attend Stern, that 7% is 39% of the total 23% accepted. (Percent of a percent of a percent) </p>
<p>Compensating for the 39% (and not 100%) yield, you get an acceptance rate of 4.14%</p>
<p>Please explain to me how this logic doesn’t work, because I certainly don’t see it. Because last I checked using some pretty basic logic and statistical analysis, it’s pretty accurate - since there are no other numbers (percentages, break downs, etc) that NYU provides - e.g. this many student with a GPA of X applied to NYU in this year. Instead, they provide acceptance rates, yields, and GPAs of the students in attendance. It would then, in fact, be logical to deduce that roughly 4.14% of applicants with a GPA of 3.5 or less are accepted. The only grounds of your objection are assuming “perfect proportionality” - which is just the premise that of the 39% who decided to attend, they accurately represent the total 100% accepted.</p>
<p>Yes, they don’t break down it by percentages. So your assumption is the closest acceptance rate. </p>
<p>Anyways, I was not trying to calculate the acceptance rate for students with under 3.5 at Stern. I was trying to see how many students with sub 3.5 were accepted based on similar students that applied…rather, in the 3.25-3.5 range, how many students were accepted over how many applies in that range only. That would be the best comparison. </p>
<p>They don’t provide the breakdowns, so I’m giving the closest (and most accurate) one can assume. 4.14% given the math, but there’s obviously room for error. Although I wouldn’t assume drastic error - e.g. 35%. If anything I would say it’s between 2% and 10%.</p>
<p>OP has strong ECs, yes. But, NYU is and always has been a very numbers based school (which is why it’s relatively easy to tell who stands a good chance and who doesn’t). Thus I said high reach for NYU. Obviously as the number of apps has been increasing, it’s becoming harder to tell.</p>
<p>I would say you can get into Rutgers on any given day. Its good that you have Rutgers in your list. If you are planning to go into Finance and investment banking i don’t think it is a good idea to consider Rutgers. But for other fields such as accounting and supply chain your degree holds the same value as that of Sterns. And it is good idea to pay 1/4th of what sterns cost and study at Rutgers where people are friendly and lots of parties (if you are into it). Good Luck…/</p>
<p>Ok thanks everyone for the replies! I heard from a lot of people that test scores are the most important aspect of getting in for Stern. Are my SATs, SAT IIs, and AP scores high enough to make up for my GPA?</p>