<p>IOE 333/334 (ergonomics and lab) and IOE 373 (data processing). I have Liu for ergonomics and Guzman for data processing. Are they easy? I took 265 last sem and found it to be very easy.</p>
<p>i personally disliked 333, and i think most others would agree. basically, it involves memorizing a bunch of terms/facts. 373 is easy if you have any programming experience</p>
<p>333/334 is easy to do well in. Just cram. However, they are completely useless (well most school classes are useless in the real world but this one takes the cake). </p>
<p>Yili Liu is also a tool bag who thinks too highly of himself and his subject. I hope you don’t have Dan Nathan Roberts as the GSI for 334 because he and Yili Liu are cut out of the same cloth. They both fail to recognize that ergonomics is useless and most students are there because the classes are required.</p>
<p>373 is easy, and SOMEWHAT useful. Guzman is a good person.</p>
<p>yeah kid</p>
<p>Wait til u get to the real world</p>
<p>Chump</p>
<p>I took both those classes (333 and 373) with nubs so our perspectives will be pretty similar. The hardest part about 373 (at least when we took it) was knowing what they wanted you to do, because the project specs were very vague. They would answer questions about the specs but you’d have to ask and then wait for a response. Just really annoying. </p>
<p>333 is just memorization. Read a book and memorize as much of it as possible. Unlike bearcats, I personally thought that was probably the hardest IOE class to get a good grade in (also my lowest grade in IOE). Bearcats is probably just much better at cramming/memorizing than I am. </p>
<p>For 334, everyone complains about DNR but I thought he was a good guy. Go to office hours because they’ll basically tell you what to put and what not to put in the reports. I didn’t mind 334, but everyone else seems to hate that class.</p>
<p>i think the gsi for 334 has changed since a couple years ago. supposedly grading is much less strict now</p>
<p>IOe 373 imo is VERy useful, especially the database part of the course since most ocmpanies store information in databases nowadays anyways and in SAP so it gives you a very good grasp of that. At least Goodsell did make us to MS Access but I am not sure about how Guzman teaches that class. I would recommend that you work with a friend on you assignments and projects in 373 since it really helps and both of you can help each other debug and code.</p>
<p>IOE 33 imo is also somwhat useful if you are interested in human factors and designing. Yes a lot of it is memorization and simply common sense but I guess you do have to learn the theory.</p>
<p>334 is BS. Sorry to put it bluntly but that class did not add any value at all to my education and even Wanda said that the only reason they have 334 is because ABET requires all engineering majors to have a lab component to them. THe grading was ridiculous and Dan Nathan Roberts along with Barry Kantowitz are not helpful at all. However, I heard heard that the class structure has changed now and the grading is less strict as numbswitstubs mentioned.</p>
<p>Good Luck!</p>
<p>Btw, I do think 373 is one of the harder IOE courses. It involves a lot of time commitment and effort and as you have to do multiple assignments every week. SOme of the programming assignments can be very challenging too. As I mentioned above, I would highly recommend you do your assignments with a friend in order to get a good grade in that course.</p>
<p>I am taking IOE 373 and EECS 280 at the same time. Do you think it will be difficult/frustrating to have 2 programming classes in the same semester?</p>
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<p>Probably not a huge deal but you’ll very likely just get sick of programming. Unless you really like programming I’d recommend you take them in two different semesters.</p>
<p>i wouldn’t really consider 373 a programming course anymore. it’s changed substantially since we took it, vlad. i don’t think taking 280 and 373 simultaneously will be any issue. remember than guzman is teaching 373…</p>
<p>Okay, I haven’t paid any attention to the changes in the course since we took it. How’s it different now?</p>
<p>it deals much more with databases (Access) and less with OOP. i <em>think</em> he also uses a tiny bit of stats/simulation, but I might be wrong about that part.</p>
<p>I am taking IOE 333, 334, and 373 next semester too!</p>
<p>I can comment on 373, I took it Winter 2013 w/ Guzman. Nubs is correct about the class having more to do with Access. The first third of the class is getting familiar with Access and database relationships. The second part of the class is VBA programming within Access, basically doing the same things you did in the first part of the course except using code to do it. The last third of the class focused on advanced VBA and also some data mining. At the end of the course there’s a group project (20% of grade) focused on the data mining and presenting information based on the data you come up with (using PivotTables in Excel, UserForms, etc…). </p>
<p>A note on the group project, make friends in the class at the beginning and make sure they’re reliable and ask them to be in your group for the project. I got stuck with two people I didn’t know because I didn’t pick a group and I ended up doing 90% of it on my own. </p>
<p>Guzman is a great professor and it’s hard not to do well with him teaching the course.</p>
<p>@actfool08</p>
<p>How many people can you have in your group for the final project? Is it limited to a group of 3?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>I’m pretty sure most were groups of 4, and there were a couple groups of 3 and 5.</p>