how bad is an F?

<p>Okay I won't lie... I go to GMU and am an econ major and have a 3.65 GPA. I had 2 Fs and a C in my freshman year but i retook them and my GPA has been going up until now(my Junior year). I really don't have high expectations but is it possible to get into a school like Penn State or Seattle University?</p>

<p>p.s. assuming i get at least a 160 LSAT</p>

<p>Penn State & Seattle wiil understand that you were taking time to adjust.<br>
Since your overall GPA is 3.65, I don't think you will have a problem</p>

<p>Does your 3.65 include the F as a 0, or not count it since you re-took the class? LSAC will calculate the F as a zero, regardless of what your undergrad institution did.</p>

<p>Hey, if the 3.65 does not include the 2Fs and C, then it will hurt quite a lot when the LSAC converts grades.</p>

<p>The LSAC includes ALL grades prior to your first bachelors, including those before retakes. </p>

<p>Nonetheless, for the schools you want to attend I think you will be fine with a target LSAT.</p>

<p>If you retake a course, LSAC does not count your original grade if it doesn't appear on your transcript.</p>

<p>Well i think mason doesn't average the two grades they just count the second grade towards your gpa. Assuming that the 3.6 doesn't include the Fs what is the verdict?(assume i get a 160 LSAT) I honestly was going through rough patch in my life. Would it help if I explained it during my interviews. But if I am screwed I don't mind going to a third tier school.</p>

<p>I think you'll be fine at the schools you listed. The T-14 may be quite hard to break, but if you get a decent LSAT you should be okay.</p>

<p>Also most law schools do not interview, so if you wanted to talk about it you'd have to attach an addendum. I would only list an addendum for your grades if you have a legitimate and documented excuse (for example hospitalization, car accident,death of a family member, etc.)</p>

<p>If the F's keep you out it is a gift from on high - consider yourself lucky! Law is filled to overflowing with malignant and twisted personalities.</p>

<p>Honestly, Nitrox . . . on what are you basing your "filled to overflowing" statement? You might want to consider leaving your overly negative and unbalanced assessments of the legal profession to those who have at least graduated from high school.</p>

<p>I'm in the same boat.. i have a 3.66. First semester of college I got an F and a W, which both got replaced and are not reflected in my current GPA. It's kind of depressing.</p>

<p>What does LSAC do with W's ?</p>

<p>W's are not counted as part of your GPA, though all your colleges receive your transcripts so they will know that you have W's on your transcript. Too many W's is bad, though a few is OK.</p>

<p>"Honestly, Nitrox . . . on what are you basing your "filled to overflowing" statement? You might want to consider leaving your overly negative and unbalanced assessments of the legal profession to those who have at least graduated from high school."</p>

<p>Hmm, interesting response if the challanged post was so far from the truth. </p>

<p>Perhaps my views are based on my lifetime of personal observations of a parent's career experiences in the law as an attorney? I guess that has no validity, right? Or maybe they were influenced by my personal observations during innumerable hours spent assisting in a law firm, dealing with attorneys and staff? Should I igore that? In point of fact, I submit that I know more about this vile field than most of the misguided sheep who apply to law schools.</p>

<p>'Overly negative'? LMFAO - I hardly think that possible with reference to this so-called profession. How many attorneys do I need to know who rue the day they went to law school, but feel trapped? Are their personal experiences not worth considering? </p>

<p>I suppose you think that one personally has to suffer burns before one can realize that fire is hot?</p>

<p>Hey, by the way, I have graduated from HS. ROFL.</p>