How bad is this Oxford College bitterness over at main campus?

<p>I went to Oxford's "accepted students" event a while back and one of their tour guides specifically said "Oxford is not a backdoor." Seriously, if they have to let people know this, it must be pretty bad right? Do people at College of Arts and Sciences care about Oxford? Do they view Oxford as Emory students? Or do they really think Oxford is a freakin' backdoor and students there suck?</p>

<p>Why you asking this right now? You going to Oxford?</p>

<p>At the end of the day, I think few people really care. It’s just there. The fact of the matter, though, is that if you look at the profile of the accepted students at Oxford, it is, on average, lower than those accepted to Emory College. Of course there will be outliers. Because of this, Oxford has this reputation to some extent. It’s probably not helped by the fact that Oxford students start these rumors that the GPAs from Oxford are higher and how the classes there are harder, etc. The fact of the matter is, no one has ever proven that. The statistics probably exist somewhere, but what does it really matter? You’ll get a fine education at both places… it just depends what you’re looking for… a research University or a tiny liberal arts school in rural Georgia with access to big-time resources that are about an hour away (though there is a free shuttle)?</p>

<p>To be honest, if you’re on main campus, you never ever hear anything about Oxford. It just doesn’t even seem like a part of Emory until you meet someone new who happened to go to Oxford. All of the research, guest lectures, and groundbreaking research is going on at the Atlanta campuses. For better or worse, when people think of Emory, they picture the Druid Hills campus and perhaps Emory healthcare hospitals. Few think of Oxford.</p>

<p>It’s a great place, and you’ll probably have a great experience there and on main campus. But don’t think your experience will be the same as someone who is in Atlanta for all four years. One may actually have a better experience starting at Oxford (many do) than at Emory, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re equivalent. </p>

<p>PS - Oxford is looked at kind of how the nursing school is looked at… I didn’t know more than 5 people who went to the nursing school in all my 4 years, and it was on the main campus. It just seems that those students live in a different world than the College or Bschool students (who are indistinguishable). I’m not sure why that is exactly, but I think it might have something to do with the high number of transfer students who attend (it’s only 2 years like the bschool). </p>

<p>I think that’s important to note. I never had anything against those in the nursing school or at Oxford… it’s just that I didn’t happen to meet many them for one reason or another. And those that I did know, I liked for the most part. I had a couple of pretty good friends who went to Oxford. And they loved it.</p>

<p>hahahahahahaha ROFL</p>

<p>I don’t wanna deal with this Oxford bull when I go to Emory. Since the university accepts it, just leave them alone. If they make it over to Emory junior year, then hey congrats they’re one of us. If not, then bye bye. This applies to people at Emory College (College of Arts and Sciences) as well. You drop out, you’re gone.</p>

<p>If the definition of ‘backdoor’ solely lies upon GPA and SAT, I think it is true. In my school, there are 2 people who got accepted to Emory-Oxford and 4 to Emory College. The GPA and SAT are the following:</p>

<p>Emory-Oxford

  1. GPA: 3.4 SAT: 1950
  2. GPA: 3.2 SAT: 1880</p>

<p>Emory College

  1. GPA: 3.94 SAT:2100
  2. GPA: 4.00 SAT:2350
  3. GPA: 3.50 SAT: 2300
    4 GPA: 3.80 SAT: 2020</p>

<p>So yes, the trend is this - people who get accepted to Oxford has lower scores and grades than those who get accepted to Emory College. And yes, already in our school those who got accepted to Emory College grudge whenever they hear Emory-oxford students say they got accepted to “Emory University.”</p>

<p>But as dgebll thoughtfully said, it doesn’t matter at the end. Most of E-Oxford students will become Emory students, and I seriously doubt that the level of education in Emory will decrease because of oxford students.</p>

<p>I was wondering the same thing as well too. I have the option of going to oxford or going to unc chapel hill but the rumors about emory and oxford bitterness, back door, etc talk is making me lean more towards unc ch…</p>

<p>Emory University says that those who get in Oxford are Emory students so I guess Oxford students can brag about getting into Emory University. It’s like a half-lie vs half-true vs completely true vs completely lie thing.</p>

<p>But there’s a problem. This kid at my school also got into Oxford. He almost NEVER tells people he got into Oxford. He’s going to Oxford, but the problem is, other people keep telling others that he’s going to Emory because they get the connotation of Druid Hills instead of Oxford City or something. It’s not a lie, though, but still… So it spreads. I can feel how annoyed he is. If people start looking up then he’s bombed.</p>

<p>Sensation, does your school have that problem too? I’d stick up for them if that’s the case. You know how people love to f with others when people with “low” GPA gets in a supposedly selective school.</p>

<p>@Beretta9mm,
The person who will go to E-Oxford in my school also never, EVER, says she is actually going to attend E-Oxford, unless specifically asked. Whenever she says she is going to ‘Emory,’ those who got accepted to Emory college laughs at her at her back.</p>

<p>^Do you believe she/they deserve to say they’re going to Emory?</p>

<p>Sorry for the late reply, Beretta, I accidently erased all my writings.</p>

<p>I personally do not care whether E-Oxford students deserve to put themselves under the brand name of ‘Emory.’ I think it’s really pointless, knowing that nobody will care whether you attended Emory college or Oxford in freshmen & sophomore year. Nobody asks a Columbia graduate whether he/she attended Columbia college, GS (General Studies) or Barnard. Nobody asks a NYU graduate whether he/she attended NYU Abu Dhabi, NYU college or NYU Liberal Studies Program. (** Columbia’s GS/Barnard and NYU’s LSP are considered ‘backdoors’)</p>

<p>I can, however, understand the anger of Emory College students. They are the ones who are outstanding enough to pass a competitive pool of Emory college applicants, who are typically more better equipped with grades, test scores and ECs than Oxford applicants. Nobody wants to see someone who took an easier path to be treated equality as yourself.</p>

<p>^But you do accept them as Emory students once they get there as juniors right?</p>

<p>This thread dissapoints me quite a bit. Oxford is part of Emory… get over it. Sensation, please don’t assume Oxford students have less “ECs” although they do, in general, have lower grades and test scores. But who cares? Why the bitterness? This sort of “we’re better than you” attitude will not serve anyone of us well in the long run. Just a thought.</p>

<p>alam1, that’s what I exactly said. My last post’s point was “Who cares?” too, so I’m with you. </p>

<p>beretta, you question sound as if I don’t accept oxford students as emory students in freshmen/sophomore year :slight_smile: Of course I do, even if they are oxford students from freshmen!</p>

<p>alam1, why the bitterness? As you already know, most of us don’t care, but the bitterness exist because one of the reasons people feel good about going to a top college like Emory is that it’s very hard to get in. It feels good to get in. Oxford conflicts with that. This Emory vs Oxford bullsh*&^ shouldn’t exist, but it does in reality… The only thing that solves this is (actually it doesn’t but whatever) that Oxford’s academics is just as hard, if not harder, than Emory’s (College of Arts and Sciences but seriously who wants to type THAT much when you can just say Emory College?). </p>

<p>Sensation, for various reasons, I’ll accept them in junior year OPENLY and PRIVATELY accept them as freshman/sophmores. </p>

<p>I strongly believe Oxford exists with lower stats because they choose students who have the potential to succeed and can benefit greatly with an Emory education, even though they haven’t really produced the results in high school. This gotta be one of those unsaid reasons. The other obvious reason is that it’s grandfathered in. </p>

<p>And Oxford’s acceptance rate should go down a lot in 10 years 'cause Emory’s gaining recognition.</p>

<p>Beating the dead horse. It seems like all people want to do is justify how Oxford isn’t a backdoor, or point out the average Oxford admit’s “lower stats” and then backpedal. We will all get the same piece of paper.</p>

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<p>Not exactly. The experience you go through from Oxford to Emory and Emory to Emory is different. More like the same paper with different colored pens, black and blue.</p>

<p>Unless you meant the bachelor’s degree certification/diploma paper at the end of senior year…</p>

<p>Well it’s a good thing you’re not the one printing off the diplomas. We all will actually get the exact same piece of paper.</p>

<p>However, it’s not a good thing that you forgot to read my sentence that starts with “unless” and only gave a cursory glance at my first paragraph that treated the word “paper” as in “life at emory.”</p>

<p>I say that Iam going to Oxford at Emory because I feel like there is no need to lie about where I am going to school. Most people who are ranked higher than me are going to places like UNT, UTA, and UTD. I was apprehensive about the whole backdoor/resentment talk and was ganna accept UT, but realized that my experience is what I make of it. Of course I am terrified about junior year. I mean who wouldn’t be? I do get the resentment towards E-Oxford kids, for it’s not without merit. I am just hoping that this “bitterness” is not something that is going to make me regret my undergraduate years.</p>