How 'bout that Healthcare?

<p>Basically what this bill does is force insurance companies to be charitable towards the unlucky and/or irresponsible people in this nation, and makes up for it by making it legal for them to rob the lucky and/or responsible ones of us.</p>

<p>I do not think the American people will accept this. </p>

<p>The promises on abortion and the deficit sound nice, but who is going to hold them to it? My past experience with government promises makes me decidedly cynical about promises that can’t be proved false until the next couple terms are over.</p>

<p>I have one question: Under the bill as it currently stands, will people below the poverty line be exempt? The Senate bill provided that, but I believe it is suposed to be scrapped in Reconciliation. If insurance companies are going to have a license to steal from people who are already just a few steps behind the rent, then congress should be reassigned to test the [Active</a> Denial System](<a href=“http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System#Controversy%5DActive”>http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System#Controversy). They’d do more good for our nation that way.</p>

<p>Disclaimer: The preceeding statement was intended for dramatic effect. I do not advocate attacking public officials, even with nonlethal devices. At least not very often. :P</p>

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<p>That’s not so bad. Better rob the rich than rob the poor.</p>

<p>^Ahem. I’m NOT rich, but I am healthy. This bill will raise my healthcare costs to cover other people who are richer than I am.</p>

<p>There is so much crap in this new plan.</p>

<p>This bill is ridiculous. The majority of Americans dont even approve of this bill. It was passed with bribery on Obama’s part (if Stupak and other important no-vote democrats changed their votes to a yes, Obama said he would be sure to pass the anti-government funding bill for abortion). Oh, and , this bill causes a 1/2 TRILLION dollar increase in taxes. Thanks Obama, thanks alot.</p>

<p>and, MosbyMarion, are you kidding? Reagan, socialist??? Hardly. He cut taxes by 25% and reduced government influence. Opposite of socialism.
On the other hand, Obama adding a 40% increase to the 40% income tax we already pay and increasing government control is socialist.</p>

<p>This bill reeks of socialism and government control. We’re stepping up taxes on the rich to help fund the millions that can’t afford healthcare themselves. Furthermore, we’re punishing people for merely being healthy. Healthy people are being subjected to mediocre health care compared to the health care they would be receiving pre-bill, now granted, many of the people receiving health care under this new bill may actually have legitimate genetically predisposed diseases, however, a vast portion of the sick merely choose to live an unhealthy life with lack of exercise and fast food. No amount of health care will change that. Unless we change the way we live, health care will continue to be an issue. Medicaid didn’t fix it, medicare didn’t fix it, and now universal health care will not either. Universal health care has failed in Canada, bankrupted France into billions of euros of debt, and will only place our nation into an even greater fiscally unstable state.</p>

<p>Hate to break it to you guys but socialism has been alive and kicking in America for well over a century. And good ridance!</p>

<p>Hey, I hear something about this bill effecting parent-plus loans. Basically getting rid of 'em and replacing 'em all with subsidized loans from the federal government.</p>

<p>I swear to God, some people make me want to pull my hair out. Do some of you even know the definition of Socialism? It is clear that you don’t. </p>

<p>And conservatives love to claim that Reagan was small government, one of the greatest presidents ever, etc. BS. He is the most overrated President ever. And he is the complete opposite of small government. Do some research.</p>

<p>This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US department of energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that, I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration.</p>

<p>At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal departments of transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service and drop the kids off at the public school.</p>

<p>After work, I drive my NHTSA car back home on the DOT roads, to a house which has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it’s valuables thanks to the local police department.</p>

<p>I then log onto the internet which was developed by the Defense Advance Research Projects Administration and post on forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the government can’t do anything right.</p>

<p>^Post of the day.</p>

<p>pyroza wins!</p>

<p>agree. I laughed because of the social irony that pyroza posted.</p>

<p>I read that outloud to the criminal justice and fellow humanities major in the room with me. They laughed hysterically and applauded :).</p>

<p>pyroza- I love you and I’m saving your comment for progeny. And I love OBAMA"S healthcare plane.
At 1 a.m. last night/morningI danced around for 30 minutes because of OBAMACARE-thats what I call the healthcare. Now If I get sick when I’m 22 my parents don’t have to go bankrupt to pay my medical bills. I can stay on their insurance till I’m 26 and I finished graduate school!!!</p>

<p>Even better, thanks to OBAMACARE, I can go to grad. school because I can take loans out at 6% not 10% interest. Which means I can spend more time arguing with pesky republicans and less time wallowing in debt!!!</p>

<p>OBAMA- I LOVE YOU!!!</p>

<p>pyroza=awesomeness!</p>

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<p>I never said anything about Reagan.</p>

<p>I do agree in pyroza’s awesomeness xD</p>

<p>“a vast portion of the sick merely choose to live an unhealthy life” </p>

<p>You can’t say a vast portion choose to live an unhealthy life, because you aren’t a vast portion of people. That my friend is called a logical fallacy. Based on what evidence? You have none? </p>

<p>I highly doubt three of my siblings have ADHD because they don’t exercise and eat fast food. </p>

<p>Yep, my family is unhealthy because we eat fast food (which we don’t by the way), NOT because it is comprised of a single mother with six children that only makes 60k a year with no child support, and can’t afford medical treatment despite the fact that she works in a hospital. I don’t know HOW I missed that.</p>

<p>I love Obama. “We will fix our economic situation…”</p>

<p>Right after I pass off my own agenda combined with socialized medicine in the form of a democratic bill! (By the way, I will do nothing, I repeat nothing, until I waste a good year bullying Congress)</p>