<p>it seems that lately I've seen on the internet people with 3.75 and above not getting in.
Does anybody know why this is the case? Is NYU looking for something in specific? </p>
<p>This seems weird because the NYU website claims that the most significant facor in admission is your overall academic achievement.
(I understand that E.Cs and recs and Standardized testcores are factors also)</p>
<p>Yet, even CollegeBoard statistics reveal that 37% had h.s. GPA between 3.5 and 3.74
as opposed to 32% had h.s. GPA of 3.75 and higher. </p>
<p>Can anybody please explain this? I would love some insight on any applicants who were accepted for the 2014 ED class or any other time.</p>
<p>PS. NYU even says quote, "The fact is that our admitted applicants do get the best grades in the toughest courses."</p>
<p>My only guess is that the GPA doesn’t correspond with their standardized test scores. A 3.75 at one school is very much NOT the same as a 3.75 at another school. Some grade much more easily or harder than the next. Also, perhaps these students had the opportunity for advanced classes but didn’t take them. All colleges want rigor. Perhaps they had this GPA, but low/lower standardized test scores (which is one way for the college to SEE if the GPA is ringing “true” or not). </p>
<p>Some people can work hard, and are good at rote memorization and regurgitation of facts (GPA). Others are “reasoners”…they can rationalize and fix and figure and calculate and understand…but lack the discipline of a daily drudge that includes the boredom of memorization. Which is better? Dunno. Neither, I guess. But most colleges want BOTH (in varying degrees). So, if you’re seeing a higher average GPA, that’s only part of the story.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t trust Collegeboard. Their data tend to be severely outdated and/or wrong. Plus, it doesn’t take into account the fact that NYU has 8 undergraduate schools with completely different admissions criteria. Trust what the NYU website says. They of anyone will know the most about their admissions process.</p>
<p>Due to the extremely large number of applications received, NYU perhaps can’t afford to be as “holistic” as equally prestigious schools that receive less applications, but I wouldn’t say admissions is formulaic, as you might find at a huge state flagship. The truth is that overall, it is a very difficult school to get into. You will need to bring SOMETHING to the table besides good grades. This could explain the relatively low average GPA.</p>
<p>Numbers wise, Stern is probably the hardest, followed closely by CAS. The vast majority of these schools’ students were in the Top 10% of their high schools / performed well on the SAT.The other schools, however, are quite different, to the point where it’s like comparing apples to oranges. Tisch mainly depends on your portfolio or audition. Steinhardt and Gallatin have their own criteria as well.</p>
<p>Thanks for the opinions and these interesting remarks really do work in my favor. I feel like NYU is an excellent school because each student has some potential even if the grades aren’t stellar like a robot. I always believed thats what college admissions should be like and thats why I sort of despise those people who try and over-do things like sign up for all this involvement in their school like cheeleading and etc. Like NYU says, “In general, we would prefer to see substantial involvement in a few activities rather than superficial involvement in a laundry list of clubs and organizations.”</p>
<p>However, on the subject of Tisch, which I will be applying to, I have also hear the oppososite about it- that they primarily to your GPA and standardized test scores. Is their anybody who has been accepted to Tisch who can confirm this?</p>
<p>Well, I’m a CAS student but I think to some extent I’m qualified to speak for my Tisch friends. The grades/scores have to be there - maybe not at the Stern/CAS level, but even with a extraordinary portfolio/audition, you’re not going to get into Tisch with poor grades.</p>
<p>Great, that’s kind of what I wanted to hear.
And for LSP, I know that NYU takes a few Tisch Film kids into LSP. Is this because theylack in grades of their portfolio?
I assumed that they were perfect candidates in terms of acadmically and not so strong in the portfolio but it could be the opposite.
Can anybody confirm this?
Thanls!</p>
<p>Azizi: I’m honestly not sure about LSP Tisch kids. I assume they either lack in terms of grades/scores or their portfolio. My guess is that their portfolios were good enough but grades probably weren’t quite there.</p>
<p>I would guess that LSP’d Tisch kids had weak academics, but a strong portfolio.</p>
<p>Think about it: LSP will help them hone their academics, but it won’t help them cultivate a stronger artistic background/stronger portfolio, etc.</p>
<p>oneguy21 - NYU says that they "select about 10% of the applicants to New York University for [LSP]. [NYU] selects students for Liberal Studies that have not been offered admission to their first choice school (predominantly due to our highly selective admissions process), but whom [they] believe to be excellent matches for NYU. They are typically liberal arts-minded, academically competitive, and independent thinkers."</p>
<p>That seems like a lot for a huge applicant pool… I highly doubt it’s filled up only after the ED round.</p>
<p>not where it says that LSP kids are “academically competitive”</p>
<p>However, if the thing about getting into LSP b/c you lacked academically but had a strong portfolio is true, then it seems that it is better to have a great and creative porfolio then stellar grades. </p>
<p>STILL confused though. In another website, one man was criticizing Tisch because the kids with great standardized test scores got in and he didn’t (he believed he had a flawless and uniquely creative portfolio) </p>
<p>between these two conditions (tisch leaning towards academics and tisch leaning towards creativity) it still seems unclear regarding LSP and whats more important in Tisch- portfolio or acadmics? </p>
<p>missamericanpie claims they had a stronger portofolio, while NYU stresses that LSP is liberal arts “minded” and academically competitive. </p>
<p>My impression is that to be placed in LSP, the applicant is qualified to attend NYU, but is lacking in either test scores or GPA. All else equal, compared to a CAS admit with high SAT / GPA , an LSP admit tends to lack in one of these two. </p>
<p>To my knowledge, the kids in LS are no less intelligent, driven or qualified than us CASers - it seems that they were either unsure of what to major in, or were lacking in either GPA or SAT.</p>
<p>For Tisch programs that are based on auditions and portfolios, it is essential to have the talent. Without the talent component, you are not getting in. If you meet their talent criteria, you may get in without stellar grades. It does not work the opposite way. So, yes, talent is more important ultimately. If two people are considered equally talented, then academics/ leadership/ EC’s come more into play as a deciding factor between the two. In that way you can say that talent and academics can be a 50-50 mix.</p>