<p>Q, I’d need to see the context.</p>
<h1>879 is interesting, Pizzagirl. I guess that I have thought for a long time that we all (individually) have an obligation to society as a whole. So for a group of people who can work with the resources of a place like HYP+(add several colleges), I would think the obligation is greater.</h1>
<p>Oh, and also thank you Pizzagirl–I am always interested in your posts as well. </p>
<p>Actually, people may have found a new way to silence a poster of my type–compliments that I can’t hope to deserve, with future posts.</p>
<p>lookingforward, #881, since the MIT admissions post to which I am referring was credited to Marilee Jones personally and all of those have been taken down, I think the only way that it might be found is by Googling cached material. I may have a chance to look for it at some point.</p>
<p>Alh, I would never stifle your right to criticize. But the very premise of this thread suggests that given that college admissions is a zero sum game, every aspiring scientist that Yale admits (given its stated admission that it is bolstering its investment in science and technology) means one less seat for my kid who is the traditional “I want to study Poli Sci and take Grand Strategy and do Directed Studies Freshman Year” kid. Poor me and my rejected kid.</p>
<p>My point is that Yale determines what its institutional priorities are which clearly change over time (only a handful of kids are proficient in Biblical Hebrew now, vs. the 18th century when virtually every Yale man was). And as long as they are not violating the law (by consistently excluding Black Women or some other group; or creating its own admissions criteria which de facto exclude those people) then I say, “Yale, go in Peace”.</p>
<p>And I would love some evidence that the “otherwise qualified but inexplicably denied” kid who got rejected from Yale, ended up learning to be a Dental Hygienist at Norwalk Community College. In my experience, that otherwise qualified but inexplicably denied kid from Yale ends up at U Chicago or JHU or Columbia or Amherst or Cornell or even- gasp- Harvard, and even if he or she can’t take Directed Studies, the core at Columbia is a nice substitute and somehow this kid will end up with a fantastic education.</p>
<p>ALH- I think we agree that the world will never be the same now that HS kids don’t have to orate in a dead language as a rite of passage.</p>
<p>Re 874, DH answers " all of them" might assign Suetonius for a history class, standard for Roman history
Common are also Canterbury Tales, Machiavelli, etc, depending on the class.</p>
<p>Mar.i.lee.jones! Again!</p>
<p>Blossom: I sort of suspect that these threads aren’t even really about admissions, but that there is a subtext. And that if I hang around long enough I’ll figure out what it is!</p>
<p>Suetonius might be taught in a variety of departments in translation. It really isn’t the same. It’s better than nothing. ;)</p>
<p>Just to clarify my comment in #882, I do not mean that people are obligated to benefit society on a large scale–just that the obligation extends well beyond one’s immediate circle.</p>
<h1>886 makes me think about the line from “Raiders of the Lost Ark,” where the control tower blows up at the airport, and Belloq immediately says, “Jones!”</h1>
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<p>[Yale</a> Alumni Magazine | Articles](<a href=““On the advisability and feasibility of women at Yale” | Features | Yale Alumni Magazine”>“On the advisability and feasibility of women at Yale” | Features | Yale Alumni Magazine)</p>
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<p>If the donor has a 40% Federal tax rate and can deduct the gift, $12 million of the gift is coming from the Federal government and $18 million is coming from him. Donations to country clubs are not tax-deductible. I’m not sure that donations to institutions that are partly educational but partly country clubs should be deductible.</p>
<p>No, to me, it’s the Monty Python song, Spam.
“Jones, Jones, Jones, Jones…”</p>
<p>QM - As far as I know it is an urban myth that MIT admits people with multiple Bs in science/math subjects.</p>
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<p>Yale does discriminate on the basis of race in college admissions – it’s called affirmative action – and that is another reason for its non-profit status to be revoked. Yale probably is breaking the law in the view of some Supreme Court justices. The outcome of the Fisher case will reveal if five think so.</p>
<p>^ tpg- I don’t know how long we can go on with Jones as an example of MIT practices today.
I can only say, we flag Bs.</p>
<p>Once again, Fisher relates to a public U.</p>
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<p>Wrong! I believe it is Rome which must be sacked, its men tossed like classical pizza pies in the sky, its women vexed as if they were cursed with multiple annoying pesky 5-12 year old boys, and all of its temples and houses denuded of all victuals and spirits so the victors may enjoy their day of triumph. </p>
<p>Bring on the Goths and the Vandals!!! :D</p>
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Please remember that, generations or decades we needed to see the fruits.
If there was no Blackmountain college, chances are no Albers at Yale.
Then, we might be seeing very different works around us.</p>
<p>texaspg, #893, it is my recollection that PiperXP, who is an MIT student and also an office assistant in admissions at MIT (at least until recently), and who is a frequent poster on the MIT forum, said that she/he had multiple B’s in science in high school. molliebatmit, who worked in admissions while an MIT undergrad, had one or more in science/math as I recall. (Sincere apologies if my recollections are wrong.) Not saying that they specifically should not have been admitted–they clearly had other compensating qualities. But saying that it’s not an urban myth. And I think that the value system Jones put in place still influences their admissions.</p>
<p>You think.
Sorry to nag. But how do you substantiate? You know some profs, are in science, have met heard about or overheard students. But what do you know about how admissions works at MIT? Or elsewhere?</p>
<p>Yeah, we disagree.<br>
We have to watch how we rely on what happened in the past.</p>