<p>ChlokitRain:</p>
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<p>Right.</p>
<p>To reiterate, I stand by what I say - 80% of any Ivy League school is composed of the type of student the OP represents (~33 or 2250 on ACT/SAT, 750-800 board scores, etc.) that don’t necessarily have anything extraordinarily interesting about them. Anyone who fits into the OP’s profile has a good chance at ANY school. Not guaranteed, sure - only URMs and other hooks can enter the process with any sort of assurance.</p>
<p>For example, my SAT score is higher than the average successful applicant to HYP (and the OP’s score is the average ACT accepted student at those schools, as well). That means that HALF of the successful applicants had LOWER scores than the OP! Yet your advice would indicate that these successful applicants should not have even bothered applying.</p>
<p>Do you see? Your thought process is jaded.</p>
<p>you can apply to ONLY ONE school Early Decision and you can apply Early Action to other schools depending on the ED college’s stipulations.</p>
<p>Yay. I’m a boring, uninteresting person.</p>
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<p>Yes… which is why I find it odd that ChoklitRain said he applied to Chicago EA and then Penn ED.</p>
<p>That is possible; I thought you said someone said they applied ED and EA to the same school. That makes no sense; however, you can apply Early Decision to ONE school and still apply Early Action to other schools. However, in the Early Decision agreement it will acknowledge whether this is allowed for their specific program, college etc.
So it is possible.</p>
<p>BUT, ChoklitRain HAS to go to UPenn now</p>
<p>You can apply ED and EA, but once you’re accepted to the ED school you must matriculate there and revoke all other pending applications. If you hear back from the EA school first, that’s fine - you just can’t matriculate.</p>
<p>What are my chances of getting accepted to UPenn SEAS RD? My stats are above. LOOOOK AT THEM PLEASE.</p>
<p>So I could’ve applied to Yale SCEA and Penn ED… just for the heck of it?</p>
<p>Yes; HOWEVER, when you got accepted to Penn you would have had to matriculate your other applications (even without a decision made).
You got accepted? What are my chances?</p>
<p>Engineering is VERY numbers based. Your school-related stats are good, but your SATs and ACTs are really too low for a decent chance, lower even than the 20th percentile of accepted students. In that range, most successful applicants are either URMs or recruited athletes. I think you have some very compelling qualities and you should give it a shot, but you shouldn’t count on it.</p>
<p>is URM - underrepresented minorities?
if so, I am… I am a female applying into the engineering school</p>
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<p>Um. I think you’re confusing the word ‘matriculate’ with the work ‘withdraw.’</p>
<p>And I think you should probably retake SAT/ACT and hope you get 30+/2000+, because it doesn’t look like your chances are that great.</p>
<p>The “female-at-an-engineering-school” is only so powerful. Most of the female engineers I know were all VERY strong applicants in all regards, including SATs.</p>
<p>Also, since Penn can use its other undergrad schools to counterbalance the gender ratio, they don’t admit women as freely as, say, a school like georgia tech. They don’t need to.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, I think you should apply - as I said, you do have some compelling stats and you just might get in.</p>
<p>Opps, I was typing to fast. Yes, I meant retract your other apps. And thanks… It’s obvi. my reach. Does my alumni relation help my app?</p>
<p>Read the book “What You Don’t Know Can Keep You Out of College.” </p>
<p>The book disapproves that the whole college thing is a crapshoot.</p>
<p>I think the alumni connection only helps during ED, but it couldn’t hurt. Make it clear in your essays that Penn is absolutely your first choice.</p>
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<p>No, because Yale is Single Choice early action, which restricts you from applying elsewhere EA or ED. Chicago’s EA program is not restrictive, which is why I could apply there while applying to Wharton ED. MIT has a similar policy. </p>
<p>I think muertapablo is still wrong. The OP goes to a “fairly challenging private” in NJ. He doesn’t go to a top New England boarding school. The expectation for HYP admissions(and Penn RD admissions for that matter) given that he is unhooked, is that he will be the single best(or one of the top few) students in his class, not just top 5%, and have 2300+ SATs or a 35/36. 80% of accepted students may be worse academically, but they’re not unhooked ORMs from good schools in NJ, which is just about the most competitive demographic imaginable.</p>
<p>ChoklitRain’s point about the OP’s demographic is true, I can’t deny that. I didn’t look. Demographic, unfortunately, is extremely important.</p>
<p>So being around 3rd in your class isn’t one of the top ‘few,’ even if you consider that I take more challenging courses than my fellow classmates ranked higher than me?</p>