<p>nngmm,</p>
<p>You are right about this. My daughter tried to get a copy of her 1st term grades for grad school in her senior year, and was told then that they no longer existed. She did not save a copy of the grades, which I believe she was able to acess from home that first winter break. Ultimately it didn't have a negative impact, but I know she wished she'd copied them.</p>
<p>Some other differences between Haverford and Swarthmore:</p>
<p>--Swarthmore offers engineering, Haverford does not
--Swarthmore has two male fraternities, Haverford has none (Neither has sororities)
--Haverford has much easier access to Bryn Mawr classes and facilities, since the two colleges are next door to one another
--Haverford has a very competitive DIII cross country and track program, with a full-scale indoor track facility. Swat's teams are improving but their indoor track is suited only for practice.</p>
<p>Haverford is on the Main Line. Swat is not. Haverford has nice restaurants nearby. Swat does not unless you count the restaurants in Springfield all right....</p>
<p>When I last visited with my son, we ate at an Italian restaurant in a shopping plaza adjacent to (but not in ) the mall. The salad was sort of stale..although the rest of the food was pretty good Italian - claimed to be Tuscan food. Had indigestion after that. There's a Thai place in that shopping center. Gotta try that one on the next visit.</p>
<p>I thought the Italian place was going to be better than it was. I had the Osso Busco, which was a little disappointing. Huge portions: more than I could eat in two meals. If I go back, I would stick to the lighter, simple dishes.</p>
<p>The Thai place is pretty good. Pleasant atmosphere. Quality food. Smallish portions for passing all the entrees around the table -- each order is really only enough for two people to share.</p>
<p>any more information to share?</p>
<p>I think Haverford is further from Philly than Swat is. With the rising SEPTA fares that makes a difference how many times you go to Philly. Philly is a source of entertainment and food for many kids at Swat.</p>
<p>Can you have a car at either of them (as a frosh)?
I live in Philly, so it would be a big deal either way.</p>
<p>Not on campus, no, unless you have some very good reason to have one. The parking spaces in the town are $50 a month.</p>
<p>When I stayed at Haverford, I was told that freshmen are not allowed to have cars, but some freshmen sneak their cars into the parking lot anyways.</p>
<p>I don't think sneaking cars in could last for more than a day or two given how small the parking lots are and, at least at Swarthmore, how the campus security is right there.</p>
<p>i'm a freshman at haverford (don't ask why i wandered onto the swat boards...), and some freshman do sneak their cars on campus because you can park in the south lot, which is the visitors' parking lot... but i can only think of one or two people that i know who do because it's kind of far from everything.</p>
<p><i>So, does this mean that Swarthmore HAS proctored exams?</i></p>
<p>Yes and no. Exams in introductory courses are generally proctored, but during my junior and senior years exams in my humanities classes completely disappeared to be entirely replaced by papers. I still had exams in my physics classes (I was a physics minor) and exams in upper-level and even mid-level physics classes were all take-home; some were even unlimited-time take-home.</p>