<p>One day we're all going to find out that race is absolutely nothing, and we'll all feel very stupid. And then we'll discriminate based on hair color.</p>
<p>vperricone, </p>
<p>you're gonna be one of those really old, bitter white men blaming your problems on the black and hispanics. haha. </p>
<p>and i think humans will probably always find something to discriminate or classify by, but that's not an excuse. stereotypes and judgement will always exist, but as long as people get over that initial snap judgement and don't act upon racist tendencies, then the world will be better off.</p>
<p>"Is this a racist comment? Sorry, or is it just me? I'm suprised no one has responded to this.. maybe it's not supposed to be a racist comment..?"</p>
<p>-No, just saying if America was more homogeneous like European and East Asian countries that I would bet my bank account that it would be a hell of alot better place to live.</p>
<p>"Yes, NoFX, I do think that was a racist comment. I can't believe someone is telling me if this world was 100% white it would be a better place, as if blacks, hispanics, asians, and native americans are all corrupt. Let's not forget who nearly killed off the natives, enslaved the blacks, invaded the lands of Hispanics (among all the other minorities) and oppressed them, too, and barred hard-working Asians from enjoying the rights of citizenship, especially during the period around WW2. I'm not saying whites are the most evil race, but they are no better than any other races. Everyone has their imperfections. No one group is purer than the rest."</p>
<p>-Sorry, I'm not even going to bother my time with this, it's just plain retarded. Go browse Wikipedia and learn something.</p>
<p>"that's a sad cop out. blacks weren't the one's exploring the world and conquering people and their lands. besides the spanish, every other type of hispanic country has people that came from the mixture of the white, spanish, blacks, and natives. and i don't recall asians ever enslaving an entire other race. and it would have been against the native americans belief to do what the white men did to them."</p>
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<li>Spanish are white people; Hispanic means "Coming from a Spanish speaking country" and they are not all mixed. Every been to Argentina or Uruguay? You don't have to watch Hispanic television to see that the 8% of Mexico that is white is not mixed. Just because most of all the Mexicans that sneak into the US are Ameri-Indian and Mestiso, doesn't mean all South and Central America is mixed up people. </li>
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<p>-White people love to conquer and build civilizations, so what? If I recall, there is a group of people called the Mongols who are Asian who conquered alot of land and had slaves. Also, who sold slaves to white people? African tribes who wanted other tribes gone. Slavery has been in almost every race, learn some history. I guess the Egyptions are very racist since they enslaved blacks and Jews and I'm sure there were African tribes that had OMG slaves. I'm tired of seeing slavery being blamed on white people, and mostly everything blamed on white people. </p>
<p>"so i doubt other races would have done that if they had been in the white man's position. there's not proof to support your statement. there's is more proof to show how it makes no sense. and can you say its just coincidence that mostly white men have enslaved, killed, or conquered just because of race? hitler, the early americans...this all happened recently in the world. i don't hold it against white people at all, because they aren't the ones who necessarily did it. it was their ancestors. but if they have that same ignorant mentality, well then i can compare them to the racists of the past."</p>
<p>-?</p>
<p>Anyway heres a link on slavery
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery%5B/url%5D">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery</a></p>
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Spanish are white people; Hispanic means "Coming from a Spanish speaking country" and they are not all mixed. Every been to Argentina or Uruguay? You don't have to watch Hispanic television to see that the 8% of Mexico that is white is not mixed. Just because most of all the Mexicans that sneak into the US are Ameri-Indian and Mestiso, doesn't mean all South and Central America is mixed up people.
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<p>i know not all hispanics are "mixed". that's not even what i said. read again..."every other type of hispanic country has people that came from the mixture of the white, spanish, blacks, and natives." i didn't say all the people came from the mixture, i said the countries had people of this mixture. trust me, i'm puerto rican, i think i would know that. there are hispanics with blue eyes and blonde hair and hispanics that are just black (in terms of color and physical looks). </p>
<p>my comment was aimed towards vperricone's comment that "latins", as he put it, or hispanics, would have done the same thing the white man did. i was pointing out that hispanics really couldn't have done this since they were (many of them, but not all) of mixed origin in the first place. so it would've been quite difficult for hispanics to "rally" against another race by color or origin when they themselves had people that looked just like those races. </p>
<p>funny how you have to bring things that happened thousands of years ago. i was trying to keep the examples a little more recent since thats really whats relevent and prevelent today. i dont think you the world has a problem with mongols and egyptians wanting to go to revert to their old ways. however, i do believe the kkk and neo nazi's are around, correct? that's what i thought.</p>
<p>anyway, this thread has proved how ignorant people can be more than anything. i believe another thread was deleted because of some comments vperricone made, in which he repeatedly used the N word and a derogatory term for hispanic (rhymes with pic). </p>
<p>might as well just let this discussion die, along with ignorance and racism.</p>
<p>"however, i do believe the kkk and neo nazi's are around, correct? that's what i thought."</p>
<p>-Yeah I guess they are around, what does that have to do with Conquering and so on? I don't think Neo-Nazis want to conquer anything, they probably want multiculturalism to stop in want ever country they are in if it's causing problems, I guess. I know nothing on KKK, could care less about them but Nazism is national socialism which is a political view and any race could have a form of it. If I remember correctly, there is a Japanese Neo-Nazi party, and a Huge Neo-Nazi population in Russia (A country who got a tons of people killed by Nazis).</p>
<p>-I'm confused on what your trying to say about Hispanics. That they would not conquer anyone because some Hispanic countries are mixed?</p>
<p>Anyways after all of that here is a site that is very interesting detailing the history of the word race or even the usage of it. I think the timeline is the most interesting. My favorite part: The uproar over John Smoth & Pocahontas wedding not because she was an "Indian" but b/c she was a princess and he was a commoner. Again, hate is there but for a different reason, it was mainly for religious reasons & social class. <a href="http://www.pbs.org/race/003_RaceTimeline/003_00-home.htm%5B/url%5D">http://www.pbs.org/race/003_RaceTimeline/003_00-home.htm</a></p>
<p>My thoughts: Without race, MY world would be a lot less interesting. I like the idea of us not looking exactly the same. I think humans hate what they don't understand or fear. There is no reason for general hate or prejudice ever. Stereotyping will happen, self-fulfilling prophecies will be completed, and stones will be cast. It unfortunately is and always will be a part of our nature as psychology intended albeit a different purpose.</p>
<p>Prejudice most likely helped the early humans to survive. Did a saber-toothed tiger eat your child. Is there some big animal out there that looks like it? Yeah! Kill it! Oops killed a mammoth. Better try again. Got the next one. Now let's avoid this place where these creatures like that hang-out. Pretty soon fear is hatred toward a vicious cat-like creature and all like it. Sure you haven't identified it correctly all the time but when was the last time a family member was killed? Good thing you stereotyped against all Neandrathals . . . errr . . . tigers.</p>
<p>vh1 would've had a whole different list of programs today.</p>
<p>sorry to not add anything intellectual.</p>
<p>The third problem exacerbating poverty is what some call racism. Others argue the word is too inflammatory for a more subtle but no less debilitating effect.</p>
<p>Racism was clearly present in the aftermath of Katrina. Readers of Yahoo News noticed it when a pair of waterlogged whites were described in a caption as "carrying" food while another picture (from a different wire service) of blacks holding food described them as "looters." White suburban police closed at least one bridge to keep a group of blacks from fleeing to white areas.</p>
<p>Hardstyle, why do you post these pointless biased articles, as though you believe they prove your point? You are probably the most arrogant and annoying poster on this whole forum. Who else would just barge into conversations and post "slightly" related yet very controversial article, assuming that they would prove your point. You are nothing but a troll. Look, you posted that article in about 5 threads. Maybe its time to take your ritalin?</p>
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The third problem exacerbating poverty is what some call racism. Others argue the word is too inflammatory for a more subtle but no less debilitating effect.</p>
<p>Racism was clearly present in the aftermath of Katrina. Readers of Yahoo News noticed it when a pair of waterlogged whites were described in a caption as "carrying" food while another picture (from a different wire service) of blacks holding food described them as "looters." White suburban police closed at least one bridge to keep a group of blacks from fleeing to white areas. Over the course of two days, a white river-taxi operator from hard-hit St. Bernard Parish rescued scores of people from flooded areas and ferried them to safety. .**
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<p>Please, never post articles again unless you read them. There was nothing that tied Racism to Katrina. I especially like your inflammatory title of "Katrina Highlights Racism" and then you post this useless article. Admit it, you don't even READ the crap you post. HAHAHAHA</p>
<p>By Mark Morford
SF Gate Columnist
9-11-5</p>
<p>"He has always been merely an entirely selective figurehead, out of touch and eternally dumbfounded, a hand puppet of the neoconservative machine built and fluffed up and carefully placed for the very specific job of protecting their interests, no matter what. Repeat: No. Matter. What." </p>
<p>Stop criticizing! The rich man's CEO president is executing his job requirements perfectly... </p>
<p>Everyone is slamming poor Dubya. Everyone is saying, oh my God, he's more inept than we ever imagined, he has no idea what's really going on, he's oblivious and in denial and he pretty much let all those poor black people die in filth and misery, and he basically ignored the massive Katrina disaster for days before finally being pressured into cutting his umpteenth vacation short and actually taking action.</p>
<p>Hardystyle, it is obvious that you cannot form a coherent response, thus you post ridiculous articles thinking they prove your point. Wow, I love how the author says "Poor Dubya." You are the epitome of a toddler who won't listen to others, and completely ignores other viewpoints. Some one as hate filled and ignorant as you is X1000 worse than bush. I mean come on. You can't manage to prove anything except for the fact that you are incapable of reading, something most of us learn in kindergarten. Pretty funny how you criticize Bush for his "mastery" of the English language, yet you yourself are turning out to be a bigger, more arrogant ass than he is.</p>
<p>It's your Corporate Slave President whose lies are getting our Brave Soldiers killed. Cheney's Haliburton is getting filthy rich In Iraq. Please Turtle, that is even low for you to compare me to a megalomaniac liar like The C Stuent, GW Bush!</p>
<p>Absurd, sweeping generalizations without valid proof. So like you. By the way, your FIRST real post ever, nice!</p>
<p>Hey Turtle,</p>
<p>You're consistent i'll give you that. You support Elitist Racist monsters like George Bush & Ariel Sharon. Bush is an American disaster, a pitiful chimera posing as a human being, a worthless Zionist patsy that's getting Americans killed for Dick Cheney's Haliburton, raised by a lunatic named Barbara "Poor People Be Happy On Cots" Bush, admitted to Andover because of daddy with mediocre grades, admitted to Yale & Harvard totally undeserving & unqualified, animal killer & torturer as a kid, cokehead whacked out maniac, dry drunk, extremist radical so-called Christian whose murderous policies are an affront to Judeo-Christian ethics, murderer of America's son's & daughters with his Haliburton inspired lies, a sick warmonger enriching his buddies at patriotic americans expense, a brat who feels entitled and despises average americans, a caricature of a real human being, appointed Dr. Strangelove Cheney as his VP, a disgrace to the efforts of our Founding Fathers to build a democracy he's spitting on to create an over extended Empire. We have elected an American Nightmare, a trojan horse!</p>
<p>You are ranting like a lunatic. Looks like you can't hold your own in an argument =(. /cry</p>
<p>The thing is, I think most people want to classify each other in races. All these "diversity" initiatives in college only exist to highlight differences between races, for example.</p>
<p>Diversity in College is to bring about an understanding & appreciation of our differences. I met two wealthy Jews in College and I'm from an Urban area with all it's associated violent & dysfunctional ills. Though we're from different worlds as there are " Two America's " as demonstrated in New Orleans after hurricane Katrina, we gravitated toward each other and shared our experiences. All of us are better off engaging each other than to live in our isolated worlds of perpetual stereotypes whether you're from the suburbs or urban areas. Both of my friends are successful Business Men that have a diverse body of people in their employ. The diversity they experienced in College that they never experienced in their community allows them to be much more successful entreprenuers. They value that experience now more than the ever. The truth is we're all different and we're a beautiful coat of many colors. </p>
<p>My daughter goes to a school that's 95% caucasian and 5% everything else. It's amazing to watch kids not care about color and to sincerely embrace each other as human beings. I often say to myself, it's a shame that this human unbiased love will melt away as society subconciously turn them into segregated groups with their own agendas based upon demonizing the outside races. It breaks my heart anf they're examples all the time of the transition from a beautiful human child into a predjudice tribe oriented person. We destroy the human nature that God put in us at birth, this society, these elite manipulators.</p>
<p>Sleep Well!</p>
<p>What does being Jewish have to do with anything? So...you met two Jews? Want a cookie? If anyone you are the one seperates people and is racist at heart. Don't even deny it, it IS the specific reason why you singled out the Jews, and didn't say, I met two asians/southamericans/soandso or didn't just say, I met two wealthy people (instead of wealthy Jews). Now, please stop spamming the forums with your ANNOYING political threads that do nothing but seperate people and make people more divided. Honestly, no one wants to come and read your racist and hateful propoganda.</p>
<p>The truth of the matter is the two relationships that endured from College were my two Jewish friends, one of whom is my daughters God Father. I couldn't be his son's God Father because the Jewish Religion dictates that only a Jew can be your kids God Father if you're Jewish. I did give a speech from my heart at his son's circumcision. We're like brothers and since the topic was about diversity, it's appropriate to bring up the fact they are Jews. I no it ****es you off that I'm anti Zionist Racist Thuggery and not anti Jew. I met other ethnic groups besides Jews but for some reason they subsided post graduation. No real human being can justify what the Zionist did to the Palestinians. They know how I feel and we have a quiet understanding to not talk about Israel. They know I love them and they've been my loyal friends that I would trust with my kids life, but i'll never BS them by acting as if Israel is not a Terrorist Racist State. A real friend tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear.</p>