<p>You criticize Israeli policies and spam the forums with your rhetoric and articles, yet you fail to mention a SINGLE Arab policy (which I assure you, are no better). Explain that.</p>
<p>Hey i've been kinda keeping up with this thread and I think, harvarstyleprep, you should just keep your racist mouth to yourself.</p>
<p>But that's just my opinion.. oh but you do keep the thread interesting i guess..</p>
<p>Like all other races look the same, but white people got that diversity with the hair and eye color.</p>
<p>My problem with Arabs is not how they fight the Zionist War Machine of Brutality, but how the Arab Governments have such a corrupt elite cadre of rulers. Even sadder is the one's we are allied with are the most brutal, non-democratic fascist governments on earth. The Saudi's, you know the ones Bush was holding hands with at the Ranch, are Royal Families that blow billions on themselves while their populace is mired in poverty. Egypt, a country of 70 Million people, is ran by Authoritarian Dictatorship that brutalizes it's people and prevents freedom of worship. We give the Dictator of Egypt close to 3 Billion dollars a year. Sickening how we talk Democracy yet give Dictators & Royal Families our full support and money. The King of Morrocco & Jordan are our pals as well. This is why we're hated because we support brutal Dictators in that Region and the people know that without our support of these Strong Men in power over there, they would be able to liberate themselves from Tyrannical Arab Governments.</p>
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<p>Something very important is happening here -- something more than simply a hurricane, or the suffering of thousands who were neglected by their government during a time of great need. Most worldly occurrences reflect deeper truths. What is happening is a gigantic reckoning, as Americans are forced to come to terms with how very, very naked is the emperor who we thought had such incredible clothes. </p>
<p>We are raised in the United States of America to believe our government is the strongest in the world, that as Americans we are basically protected, and that our country is basically good. It is cognitive dissonance for us to be confronted with evidence to the contrary, and yet such evidence has been piling up fast and furiously during this odd and potentially catastrophic phase of American history.</p>
<p>My problem with Arabs is not how they fight the Zionist War Machine of Brutality ** You support terrorists. Here is a cookie. **, but how the Arab Governments have such a corrupt elite cadre of rulers. Even sadder is the one's we are allied with are the most brutal, non-democratic fascist governments on earth. The Saudi's, you know the ones Bush was holding hands with at the Ranch, are Royal Families that blow billions on themselves while their populace is mired in poverty. Egypt, a country of 70 Million people, is ran by Authoritarian Dictatorship that brutalizes it's people and prevents freedom of worship. We give the Dictator of Egypt close to 3 Billion dollars a year. Sickening how we talk Democracy yet give Dictators & Royal Families our full support and money. The King of Morrocco & Jordan are our pals as well. This is why we're hated because we support brutal Dictators in that Region and the people know that without our support of these Strong Men in power over there, they would be able to liberate themselves from Tyrannical Arab Governments.</p>
<p>Hahah you HYPOCRITE. Why are you against the war in Iraq then, if you want the Arabs to love us? According to you, the only way they can love us if we can free them from tyrrany. Well guess what, we did that! Keep ranting!</p>
<p>Wery Wery Wifferent. Not as much friction as we have, have had, and will doubtless continue to have into the future. The Giver (fiction book) answers this question pretty well.</p>
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<p>Well, by white people I assume you're speaking of Americans, and mostly europeans, which is a huge area to cover.</p>
<p>Well, if I just speak of people who reside on the continent of asia (russia excluded), yeah, we have the oriental looking group (lately more of pureblood chinese/japanese/korean have been developing freckles and red/brown hair), the indians, and the middle east IS part of Asia too, so we don't all look alike.</p>
<p>Anyway, back to the topic. As many previous ppl have said, humans would still find another way to prejudge.</p>
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<p>I don't even know where to begin.</p>
<p>First of all, you CAN tell if someone is Asian, Black, etc. just by looking at their DNA:</p>
<p>"Checking a box next to a racial/ethnic category gives several pieces of information about peoplethe continent where their ancestors were born, the possible color of their skin and perhaps something about their risk of different diseases. But a new study by medical school researchers finds that the checked box also says something about a person's genetic background.</p>
<p>The study is by far the largest, consisting of 3,636 people who all identified themselves as either white, African-American, East Asian or Hispanic. Of these, only five individuals had DNA that matched an ethnic group different than the box they checked at the beginning of the study. That's an error rate of 0.14 percent."</p>
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<p>Second of all, you can tell the specific AREAS IN EUROPE that Whites came from just by looking at their DNA: <a href="http://www.oxfordancestors.com/background.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.oxfordancestors.com/background.html](<a href="http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2005/february9/med-race-02-09-05.html%5Dmore%5B/url">http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2005/february9/med-race-02-09-05.html)</a></p>
<p>Third of all, there is no Jewish "race." However, Ashkenazi ("White") Jews do share common characteristics that may be genetic: The average Ashkenazi Jew has an IQ of 112-115, the highest of any ethnic group. But, unlike other ethnic groups, Ashkenazi Jews' visuospatial IQ is significantly (~7 points) lower than their verbal and numeric IQs. This Jewish IQ pattern has been shown repetedly in every study of Jewish IQ. There are no good cultural explanations for this, but as this academic paper argues, there are genetic explanations (Jews who were successful in math and verbal-related jobs bred more than other Jews). For a more detailed explanation, read the academic paper that I'm using as my source: <a href="http://harpend.dsl.xmission.com/Documents/AshkenaziIQ.jbiosocsci.pdf%5B/url%5D">http://harpend.dsl.xmission.com/Documents/AshkenaziIQ.jbiosocsci.pdf</a></p>
<p>"This paper elaborates the hypothesis that the unique demography and sociology of Ashkenazim in medieval Europe selected for intelligence. Ashkenazi literacy, economic specialization, and closure to inward gene flow led to a social environment in which there was high fitness payoff to intelligence, specifically verbal and mathematical intelligence but not spatial ability. As with any regime of strong directional selection on a quantitative trait, genetic variants that were otherwise fitness reducing rose in frequency. In particular we propose that the well-known clusters of Ashkenazi genetic diseases, the sphingolipid cluster and the DNA repair cluster in particular, increase intelligence in heterozygotes. Other Ashkenazi disorders are known to increase intelligence. Although these disorders have been attributed to a bottleneck in Ashkenazi history and consequent genetic drift, there is no evidence of any bottleneck. Gene frequencies at a large number of autosomal
loci show that if there was a bottleneck then subsequent gene flow from Europeans must have been very large, obliterating the effects of any bottleneck. The clustering of the disorders in only a few pathways and the presence at elevated frequency of more than one deleterious allele at many of them could not have been produced by drift. Instead these are signatures of strong and recent natural selection."</p>
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<p>I'll tell you what, one thing is for sure, America's scientific research would definitely sink.</p>
<p>One example:</p>
<p>Here at the National Cancer Institute (the largest and most heavily funded institute of NIH I assure you), we probably have more minorities than whites.</p>
<p>In my program alone, about half of our scientists are minorities: mostly oriental asian, several indians, a few blacks and middle easterns.</p>
<p>In my father's program, it's about 75-80% minorities.</p>
<p>If I go into the cafeteria at any given time, about half of the people are, whatddya know? minorities</p>
<p>Here's another fact: we also lose many many of our top scientists to other employers because those employers are willing to offer much better positions, and guess what? a good half of them are minorities (my current supervisor being one of them, he's currently a staff scientist, about to become Chief Executive Researcher at a large biotech company, and he's Japanese)</p>
<p>National Cancer Institute only hires the best (we're also ranked highest in best place for postdocs). I'll leave the math to you guys.</p>
<p>However, I do not wish to enter a bashing contest, because I do accept people for who they are, and I can accept the fact that some of you are truly racist.</p>
<p>I will only say that I pity you, and that my previous post was a simple statement of statistics, even if I overtly expressed myself</p>
<p>One more thing to ward off potential retorts by stating that the minorities at NCI could hold the lower positions while the whites are in charge of everything:</p>
<p>The director of the biopharmaceutical department here is Indian, his associate director is Chinese.</p>
<p>The deputy director of the Center for Cancer research is middle eastern</p>
<p>The chief of of the lab of medicinal chemistry is hispanic</p>
<p>These are only a few of many examples that I can pull out. If I were to name every minority in a high position here, the mods would ban me for taking up too much space</p>
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<p>OK. So I guess we wouldn't have the deputy director of the Center of Cancer Research, the chief of the lab of medicinal chemistry, the Chief Executive Researcher at a large biotech company, and the director of the biopharmaceutical department (plus his assistant).</p>
<p>Do Asians even count as minorities? I'm not even referring to them when I say minority, I don't even think colleges do. In theory they are but I don't define them as one. Middle easterners fall under caucasian but arn't really defined as white. </p>
<p>White people are a minority in the world (around 15% of world population and shrinking) and pretty soon, they'll be a minority in the USA. So would we get the special treatment when the tides turn?</p>
<p>Anyways, if people from Asia so smart, why are they all moving over here to study at our schools? I have no problem with it, at least they do their work and pay their tuition but whats wrong with Peking University and all the others?</p>
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<p>I'll tell you why, one reason is that American post high school education is very strong.</p>
<p>Another reason is because China has 5 times more people than America, yet fewer schools. Therefore, it is much much much harder to get into schools like Jiao Tong University, Qinghua University, etc., so many people go overseas to other top-notch educational institutions like HYPSM.</p>
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<p>As long as the government remains the way it is, yes.</p>
<p>However, if the tides were to change, and this country falls to the pitholes, I'd be first in line to outta here.</p>
<p>Tpeck: I would think that Asians are a minority in the USA, since asians (all asians, not just chinese, japanese, etc.) take I think, about 8-12% of the population. Oh, and the traditional chinese aren't interested in politics and government (at least the ones I've seen) so we'd be last in line to try to decide where this country goes.</p>
<p>Then why don't they build more universities? They have a huge economy, this makes no since. With their economy they should be able to create their own Harvard like they bootleg American products lol.</p>
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<p>Well, I can't completely answer that question. I do know that China spends its money much differently than the US (much more military spending, virtually no welfare/social support, etc.)</p>
<p>I can tell you about Chinese education philosophy though, and how it differs severely from that of America.</p>
<p>Here in America, we try to lift everyone towards a better education, which is why we spend a lot of money on things like special education. Also, one thing that the No Child Left Behind Act forces some schools to do is to educate the extremely low quality students. America is more of an equal opportunity place, and as a result, pre-college education has been dumbed down.</p>
<p>China on the other hand, doesn't give a s*** about dumb kids. In China, they only focus on the best of the best to the point where the average 8th grader in China can score a 800 on the math SAT. They only really care about their top students and those who can't keep up are left behind forever.</p>
<p>Schools basically give out all the information about their students' academic performance. Every now and then there will be a list in the school of names in order of class rank, so everyone knows who's on top and who's at the bottom. The schools also humiliate and punish its worst students. Although this is definitely harsh, it also forces the students to become their best.</p>
<p>I think the colleges are the same way, they think that if more schools were to be built, more people could enroll and thus their education systems would be "tainted" with students of "inferior" quality.</p>
<p>As of right now, there are three levels of college in China: 2 year college (several hundred), standard 4 year colleges (about 250-330 of these I think), and the top 4 year colleges (40-70 of these). Getting into any school is already a tremendous feat considering the competition.</p>
<p>And they do have their own harvard by the way. the two schools that I've mentioned earlier: Qinghua and Jiao Tong, are both the equivalents of HYPSM.</p>
<p>Sorry! I can't help it! I must say that Jiao Tong university came in first place during the 2005 international collegiate computer science (or was it engineering? I forget) competition!!! Another chinese school also came in 6th.</p>
<p>"I would think that Asians are a minority in the USA, since asians (all asians, not just chinese, japanese, etc.) take I think, about 8-12% of the population. Oh, and the traditional chinese aren't interested in politics and government (at least the ones I've seen) so we'd be last in line to try to decide where this country goes."</p>
<p>Asians are actually less than 4% of the population (3.6%). If you count Arabs as Asian, which the Census doesn't, their percentage only moves up to about 5%. Moreover, unlike Blacks, who have a sizeable presence in most states, Asians are clustered in only a few coastal states and MSAS.</p>