its a corequiste for mass and energy balances 2 sorry.
@Sanajaniece : If https://ww2.eng.famu.fsu.edu/cbe/resources/pdf/2014-15e-Checklist-FSU-ChE-Mat.pdf is what chemical engineering requirement looks like in your school, you need to slow down. The upper division courses are not easier than the lower division courses. You have failed organic chemistry I. Organic chemistry II is at least two times more difficult than organic chemistry I. You need to really “Get it”. What makes you think you can pass it the second time around? Although FSU has a large number of premeds, if you have really learned the material, you should have passed the courses (those premeds need A or at least B). Check out https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjYz8HTkMvfAhUMn-AKHQbkBVQQFjABegQICBAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fstudentaffairs.jhu.edu%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F33%2F2015%2F06%2FHow.To_.Study_.for_.Organic.Chemistry.docx&usg=AOvVaw34bHg67v4Hp65LSpLXqKEY from JHU. Unless you understand the material in orgo I, you are not likely to pass orgo II. To get a good understanding in orgo I, I estimate that at least 16 hours per week study time is needed. You can figure out the time you need for your other courses to decide on your course list.
Ok, you mention you failed organic chemistry. I would look at your school’s “grade repeating policy” to see if would average both of your organic chemistry together or will they just use the highest grade you earn to calculate your GPA. If the school does average both organic chemistry together it would be hard to handle. If your school take the highest grade to calculate your GPA than just organic chemistry over again with a different professor and get a higher grade in it then it would help your GPA. Calculus II is usually harder than Calculus III.
Organic Chemistry, Physic 2, Mass and Energy Balance and Calculus III are all developmental courses. Speak to your adviser to see if it is possible to transfer those courses in from a community college. The reason why I suggest taking those courses in a community college is because it is less rigorous but the performance expectation is the same. I know some schools won’t let you transfer in a course when you did the first attempt at their college. But if Calculus III is easier in a community college and your college is willing to take class a transfer credit, why not just transfer it in.
https://ww2.eng.famu.fsu.edu/cbe/resources/pdf/2014-15a-Curr-Guide-FSU-ChE-Mat.pdf
You really, really don’t want to take 11 credits over the summer and then add on Orgo 2. ^#(^
If you can afford it, it’s perfectly fine to take up to 5 years to earn your BS (more if you do a co-op or fall/spring internships). Bright Futures/FL Pre-paid will pay out over 5 years.
I’m not sure of FSU’s numbers, but at UF, the average time to complete a BS in ChemE is 4.61 years (based on the latest graduation survey results).
Another way to look at this…it’s far better to graduate in 5 years with a GPA >3.0, than in 4 years with a GPA < 3.0.
http://undergrad1.its.fsu.edu/academic_guide/map-display.php?program=engineering-chemical is the FSU chemical engineering major map. What courses did you actually take the past three semesters?
I have bright futures so I don’t pay for anything lol.
Fall 2017: Music lit (3), Intro to New Testament (3), Trig (3), Chem 1 and lab (4), African American lit (3)
Spring 2018: Pre-calc (3), Ethics (3), chem 2 and lab (4), enc2135 (3), intro to brain and behavior (3), first year engineering lab (1)
Summer 2018: Bio 1 (3), Calc 1(4)
Fall 2018: orgo 1(3), calc 2 (4), physics 1 (5), e-series (3)
SN: My major was initially biology, I tried out engineering and changed my major to chemE in the spring of 2018.
It looks like you are a semester behind in chemistry (if you need to repeat CHM2210) and math, so you may need to plan on taking 9 semesters (in addition to the summer 2018 session) total. I.e. this coming semester will be semester 4 for you, but you may want to treat it like semester 3 when following the template.
The template has ECH3023 (mass and energy balances 1), MAC2313 (calculus 3), CHM2210 (organic chemistry 1), PHY2048C (physics 1). The first three you need to take to stay on track for 9 semester completion, but since you have already taken PHY2048C, your choices are either to stay ahead in physics and take PHY2049C (physics 2), or substitute something else in place (preferably something from a future semester if it does not have prerequisites that you do not have).
However, all future semesters in the template have at least 15 credits of all technical courses, so there is no avoiding all technical course semesters in the future.
Well, you are going to be off sequence because you switched to engineering. Your entire 1st years was not in engineering so you can’t expect to be ready for entering as a junior on time. And you were behind in math so you are trying to get through 2 years of math in one year.
Sit down with an adviser and make a plan. Figure out if BF will pay for extra semesters. BF used to not pay for summer and used to cut off at 120 credits, but it’s all different now.
Another option is to take a semester or even two off, do a co-op or internship, and take just the math or org chem class you need while doing the co-op. When you return, you’ll be on schedule to be a junior.
I can’t believe at a school the size of FSU that all basic classes aren’t offered every semester, even in the summer. While the ‘summer sessions’ can go from May to Aug, trying to fit that many classes into the summer is a lot.
What is your major core classes GPA? So many of those courses can’t possibly count in your eng GPA.
@HPuck35 regularly offers this very sage advice…college, no matter how long you take, is pretty short relative to a 40 year career.
Your effective day one was the day you started Calc I. You aren’t going to get out “on time” no matter what you do. The sequential nature of the material won’t allow it.
You effectively started the day you started Calc I and won’t likely be able to shorten it to less than 4 years from that point due to the sequential nature of the curriculum (even without factoring in a course repeat). Settle into that reality and make a realistic plan.
Bright Futures, the best I can tell, funds up to 5 years, including summers. You may have to self fund beyond that, but it’s still a heck of a deal.
Next, if Chemistry is your crux, you can do other types of engineering. It is so cumulative and so integral to Chem E, I’d be wary of bulling forward with a soft foundation.
Lastly, as others have said, you need to figure out why you are struggling. As has been previously mentioned, it’s the quality of your foundation, your efficiency, or a combo of both. So what do you do? You can backfill using Kahn. For efficiency, the Cal Newport book, How to be a Straight A Student, is a quick read and very helpful. Order it today, plow through it and put his calendar and time management advice into practice ASAP.
Good luck!
Get the book: “Organic Chemistry as a Second Language.”
Also get a tutor and study gruop.