How do I deal with this kind of rejection?

While I cannot completely relate to you, I’ll try my best. I’ve been rejected from A TON of schools, but I’m someone that moves on very easily, and lets them fuel my drive to succeed, but let me tell you a short story.

My best friend who graduated high school last year applied to 24 schools. I know. 24 schools. Ridiculous right? She applied to Harvard, Princeton, Yale, Cornell, Dartmouth, UPenn, Brown, Columbia (ED) (Yup, she was one of those kids who applies to every Ivy), UChicago, Stanford, Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, UMich, UCLA, UC Berkeley, Rice, Northwestern, USC, Duke, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Middlebury, and Pomona. She didn’t apply to a safety. Out of those 24 schools, she was admitted to a grand total of 3 of them. The rest she was flat out rejected, not even waitlisted. She cried… A LOT.

The three schools she ended up being admitted to, though, were UMich, UCLA, and Yale. She picked Yale—it was also the very last decision she opened.

She had a perfect SAT score and ended up being our Valedictorian (having taken 16 APs throughout high school). So yes, she has a happy ending and is now a freshman at Yale, but she dealt with a lot of rejection until she got there, and what made it even harder for her was seeing people who were “less qualified” in her eyes get accepted. Our mutual friend who only had a 29 ACT got into Princeton, and another who had only taken a measly 8 AP courses (yes… she thought that was measly) got into Columbia.

While I’m unsure what I was trying to point out now, I think this represents college admissions as a whole—especially when applying to the most selective schools. It’s a complete gamble. Unless you have a Nobel Prize, are an alumni and a first-generation college student simultaneously, started your own charity fund that raised a billion dollars to help save puppies… I don’t think anyone is “safe” in college admissions.

Rejection is tough, I know, but it’s inevitable, so don’t let it get you down. Take that rejection, and let it drive you to work even harder. I know it might feel like the world is crashing down on you or that your future is hopeless, but that’s not true. As someone who was rejected from their top choice school earlier in the year (and last year for that matter too as I applied two years in a row), I completely understand how tough that can be, but it’ll only make acceptance feel that much better!

Feel free to send me a private message if you feel the need to talk. I’m not exactly the most empathetic person, but I truly try!

So many good answers! I’m bookmarking this thread in case my kid is in the same situation next year.

So many good answers! I’m bookmarking this thread in case my kid is in the same situation next year.

@applicant4c, I’m a tenured professor at a big public research university. Before that I was a professor at a selective private university. I went to college at an Ivy and graduate school at one of the top technology institutes. So, I’m pretty familiar with a wide range of institutions and students. As you might imagine, I was (and am) pretty competitive myself. I’ve also got a son your age who is right now going through much the same thing as you - his profile and mindset sound a lot like yours. Through my experiences, and my son’s, at the ripe age of > 50 I hope I’ve gained some perspective.

Here’s what that perspective teaches: Most important, it’s not about you! You’ve done amazing stuff. So have thousands upon thousands of other amazing young adults of your generation. You guys run circles around my generation. Example: 11 APs? I couldn’t have taken 11 APs even if I’d wanted to! But in 1985 nothing even approaching that was part of the deal for getting into even the best Ivy. You - and all the other smart, hard-working, well-rounded, passionate young adults out there ROCK! Totally and utterly. I look at your generation and feel the future is in great hands.

So why aren’t you getting into the school of your dreams? Because there are so many more of you than ever before, but the number of slots at the “prestige” schools has increased hardly at all. I read that nearly 45,000 students applied to Harvard this year. Back in my day it was around 15,000, for roughly the same number of 1st-year slots! The acceptance rates are so absurdly low that what separates a student who gets in from one who does not might as well be random in many cases. It’s not that the person who gets into Dream U shouldn’t have. Everyone who gets in deserves to be there. It’s just that for every one who gets in there are 5 or 10 or more who were equally deserving. What got that 1 in could have been totally subjective. Or it might have been a demographic factor - income, ethnicity, geography, legacy - that was totally out of your control. Regardless, it is nothing about which to beat yourself up. Or them. It’s not that you weren’t good enough, or that they misjudged you. It’s just an impossible situation.

The flip side of this is that you shouldn’t assume that if you didn’t get in to place that admits 12% that you won’t get in to a place that is a little more selective. At another place the subjective or demographic factors may break your way. You can’t predict a small odds game.

But what if you don’t get into any of these schools. What then?

Here’s a bit of perspective that you probably won’t hear from the schools, or your teachers and counselors, or even many others on this site: Great faculty and courses and all the rest can be found everywhere. Just as the number of great students has expanded, so has the number of great faculty populating our universities. So today EVERY decent college offers AMAZING opportunities.

And at every college you will find some students who take those opportunities and find ways to make their own, and those who don’t do either. If you are one of those students who carpes the diem then you will be able to excel anywhere. Perhaps more easily at the less elite place because you may stand out more from the pack, if that’s important to you. Trust me when I say that going to Dream U is a huge shock for most, who go from being the top student to the middle of the pack. That’ll rock your sense of identity! Dream U is not a very dreamy place to be, for many, until a year or two of tough self-discovery and reinvention.

Some will tell you that at an Ivy or other elite school you will be surrounded by amazing peers and learn a ton from them. There’s surely truth to that. But you know what? At a less elite school you will also be surrounded by amazing peers from whom you can learn. They may not be quite as amazing academically, on average, but SATs and APs aren’t all there is to life (as I know you know, but as you aren’t necessarily feeling). You’ll find that they are fantastic people who channeled their energies in other directions that you can learn from. Or who had to overcome personal challenges that you were blessed to avoid. From them you may learn things that are actually more valuable to you as you move through life then what you would learn from fellow students at Dream U. You may find yourself inspired by the hurdles they overcame. Meanwhile, they’ll learn from you that academic superstars can be cool and relatable.

Does having that “name brand” on your resume matter? Sure. I won’t lie about that. It’s a strong signal to employers and others. I can point to moments when it helped me in my career to have that “pedigree”, and that’s why I don’t feel guilty that my parents spent what they did to send me to Ivy Dream U. But if you look around you will find that for every successful person with one of those pedigrees there are more who succeeded without one, or who picked up that “elite” credential in a post-graduate program or later in their careers. Not getting it now is not a handicap. It’s just a thing to deal with as you go forward, like a thousand others.

I bet that you feel that having that elite marker would be a sort of validation of all your efforts and achievements. And there’s truth to that, too, no matter how much people tell you that what should matter is what you feel inside, not rewards from outside. But over the years I’ve learned that other forms of validation matter a lot more. Especially the loyalty, love, and respect of your friends, spouse, children… In my case also my students and others I impact in my career. And my success in my career - material (if I’m honest, it matters) and non-material as well. All these things have come to matter to me much, much more than where I went to college, and I firmly believe that while it all would have played out differently if I’d gone somewhere else, it all would have played out just as well. Because all of these things are a result of the choices I have made over the years - and especially how I have chosen to act toward others. Unlike college admissions, these choices ARE under your control. Totally. And Dream U has nothing special to offer when it comes to learning how to make those choices well.

I know some of this may seem hard to believe right now. It may sound condescending, or like small consolation. But it’s all true. It’s understandable you’d be disappointed. Honor that feeling - it’s real, it’s important. But don’t wallow in it. Don’t let this crazy system get you too down for too long. Wait a couple of weeks more. If you don’t get into any of your top choices then pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and show the world what you are made of. It’s your life to make of as you will. And you can make something great of it.

This was very difficult for me to read. Two years ago, I was going through the admissions process with my oldest son. It sounded eerily familiar to me. Your stats are identical to what he had. His experience in High School was very similar as well. He did well academically, but really did not enjoy his experience at all. The need to score well to get into a good school drove him, and he hated the fact that it pitted him against his friends even though that was not what he wanted. He wrote a long editorial in the school newspaper about it and got a lot of people agreeing with him, but it really didn’t change things. With that background, he started looking for a school that would allow him to study as hard as he wanted but where he did not feel pitted against the other students.

Like you, one of the schools that he applied to was Swarthmore and it also was not his top choice. He had fostered a relationship with the school and the college counselor, and he was surprised when he was rejected by them. He got into some good schools and he got rejected or wait-listed by some as well. In the end, he believes, and we as his parents believe that Swarthmore would not have been the best place for him. It’s an excellent school, but I believe that the fit was not right for him, and I think that the school may have realized that as well. He ended up at a very good school, that he is extremely happy with.

I’m telling you this because your story and my sons are similar. You are an excellent, student with amazing credentials, and you will end up some place where you can be happy at where they are happy to have you. I’m going to echo some of what has been said. There are a lot of well qualified students, and it’s just not possible for them to let in everyone. I believe that you will be admitted to good schools, you will find one that you like. I do know it’s difficult, but have faith. I hope that you are able to get into the school of your dreams.

I think there’s a ton of great advice but not much on what you should do next. First, If the deadline hasn’t come yet, apply to that college that you think is too selective for you. My initial thought on you getting rejected from selective schools is that you were overqualified. Definitely don’t sell yourself short. Your stats are basically perfect.

If you find it’s too late to apply to anywhere else, then I think that you should go to one of the schools that accepted you. Then, if you really still want to be somewhere else, you should transfer to somewhere else that you feel suits you best. If you do really well (as I’m sure you will), the amazing grades that you made in high school will only strengthen your transfer application. Get as involved as you can at the college you attend. Volunteer club, take up an instrument and join a band, see if any professors have any research opportunities, do things that can be listed as extracurriculars but that you still thoroughly enjoy. On top of this, take as many classes as you can, whether or not they are hard. Take classes that interest you and that you think will be challenging. At the end of all of this, you will either make an excellent transfer applicant, or you’ll become so involved in the school that you’re at that you realize that you’re incredibly happy with the school that you’re at. In the end, it’s a win-win. Of course, you’ll have to go through the grueling admissions process again, which very well may end up with some disappointing results, but I’ll tell you from experience, seeing a shiny 4.0 GPA at the bottom of your transcript is so satisfying that you can’t help but to be proud and satisfied with yourself at the end of the semester.

Tbh, I’m currently waiting for transfer the decision from my absolute top school. I honestly have no idea what I’m gonna do if I don’t get in which isn’t a great feeling because it’s really really selective. I have 1-2.5 months to wait for decisions and my nerves are reeling. Trust me if you do the transfer thing, prepare for the worst but hope for the best.

I really do hope all goes well for you <3

You are not alone- my DD with SAT of 1550 and 45/45 IB and great ECs thought Swat would be a perfect fit. She was rejected. It was a big surprise. Luckily she had s balanced list and has some good admissions already.

From where I’m sitting it does look like a crap shoot. I hope you have applied to a number of less selective colleges as well. You will find your tribe anyplace you end up!

Hard work, dedication, top stats will definitely help you in securing admission to a very good college. This phase will be over in next few weeks and I wish you all the best. I had seen my daughter going through the same situation and finally she could join one of the colleges from her list of ‘top choices’. Don’t worry.

I won’t repeat comments above about how selective colleges are today. This is not a process you can anticipate by plugging numbers into a spreadsheet and calculating a result. think of it this way - highly selective colleges will reject many, many students whose grades and scores put them in the top one or two percent of their peers, so it is not a question of whether you are in the top 12.8 percent. My advice: think of college as a beginning, not an end. Use your intelligence and work ethic to be successful at the next level, and i’m not just talking about getting good grades. Work hard. maybe get a part-time job to earn some $ and have something entirely non-academic where you start to learn how people operate in real working situations, which is ultimately where you will find yourself after college. Find other things you enjoy doing outside of studying. Get involved in extracurricular activities that you really enjoy - college is a great place to try new things and figure out what you might like to do, regardless of whether you have planned out the next ten years of your life or not. above all, get out there and meet people, build friendships that make the experience great. i spent years interviewing candidates for spots at a law firm - a very large, top 100, high-paying place. well over 1000 applications annually, vying for ten or twelve summer jobs that might lead to full-time employment. Some of the best lawyers I met and helped hire went to law schools that weren’t in the top thirty. I say ‘best lawyers’ because they turned out to be much better at practicing law than peers who went to top thirty (even top 10) law schools. (and PS, after years in that environment, which was fun and lucrative but a pretty ruthless meatgrinder of an environment at times, I chose a smaller place and a lower-paying situation, and I’m very happy with that). Best of luck with the rest of the process.

You have worked hard and have so much to feel good about. Try to shut down your racing monkey mind that is thinking thinking thinking. It isn’t going to help one bit. There is no way to predict college admissions for the schools in the under 20% admissions range. Soon you will know what your options are and this difficult and uncertain time will be behind you. DD and I have been doing art together, walking the dog, savoring these first signs of spring. I strongly suggest doing something you enjoy. Before you know it you will know what your options are and then you can make your decision. For now breathe and feel proud of all you have accomplished.

  1. Control what you can control. Don't worry about the rest. And when it's some other people making a decision, you can't control that.
  2. You'll have to deal with rejection and setbacks and failure in life. Everybody (who isn't extremely protected or lives a very charmed life) does. But when you get knocked on your back, do you stay down or are you the type, when you're knocked down 9 times, gets up 10?
  3. Have bigger goals than college. Everyone who has lived a fulfilled and fulfilling life will say that the best 4 years of their life was some time after college and their proudest achievement is something other than getting in to a particular college.
  4. Work out. Perferably until you are aching all over. It does wonders for your mental state.

Speaking of what, what potential paths and goals (majors, etc.) do you have in mind?

What state are you in?

As others have said getting in a top school is getting more and more random. Students apply to more and more of the top schools, and the schools admit ever lower percentages. Swarthmore was an extremely hard admit this year with a single digit acceptance rate. The school seems to have really upped its first generation, QuestBridge/other community organization, and international admits. If you didn’t have one of those hooks, the odds were even slimmer. Hang in there. By the end of the month you should have some great choices and Swat will be a distant memory. Love the schools that love you back. https://www.swarthmore.edu/news-events/980-students-admitted-to-swarthmore-class-2022

this post compelled me to look at Swarthmore, and the first thing I saw was this: “Swarthmore College has sent letters of admission to 980 prospective members of the Class of 2022. Twenty-four percent of the admitted students are among the first generation in their family to attend college, and thirty-three percent are affiliated with local and national community-based organizations like QuestBridge. Sixty-five percent of the admitted students come from public and/or charter schools, 23 percent from private independent schools, 11 percent from parochial schools, and one percent are home schooled. Ten percent of all students are from schools overseas. Swarthmore expects to yield a first-year class of about 420 for next fall.”

This is why…it isn’t your work, there is a big push for first gen and URMs and if you don’t fall into that category, it hurts you

I’m a little late, but as a few people said, Swarthmore’s acceptance did drop into the single digits—at 9.1%. The 13% statistic is a few years old at this point.

Good luck to you, and I wish you all the best! Rejection is tough, but you’ll get over it. Just keep on trekking through life :smiley:

The sad reality is that when it comes to the selective schools – they choose you, not the other way around.

Think of the elite college admissions as the lottery that it is. Have a game plan with backs ups and a safety you love.

Yea, it hurts to be rejected. So let yourself feel bad… be nice to yourself… and then focus on the opportunities still ahead.

If you applied widely, you WILL get into a good school. And all that hard work you put in high school will help you be A ROCK STAR at that good school. Chin up.

You have years of excitement, fun, learning, discovering and growing to look forward to. It’ll be great. I promise!

I haven’t seen those stats until today, it does put things in perspective. Thanks for the article!

Thank you all for your kind words. I had no idea that so many people would take the time to help me and it means so much. Your comments, suggestions, and information has helped me get a better perspective. It’s only been less than a week, so it will take a little more time to adjust and work through these issues, but this has definitely made me feel better. I’m still waiting on six more schools, so fingers crossed!

@applicant4c, as I keep telling my S18, getting into a highly selective college is not the goal in life. It’s to get a good education that will give you a solid footing for leading the rest of your life. The US is blessed with an embarrassment of riches when it comes to colleges where you can get a great education. Secondly, acceptance percentages don’t signify the top 12.8% or 4.8% or whatever percent of a given college’s applicants, right? They signify a percentage of all applicants. In their push to bring in balanced classes (in terms of smarts, EC involvement, grit, athletes, URM, first-gen, male, female, tough home environments, etc., etc.), colleges necessarily must cast a wide net, not just pick from the top. Which means many kids from the top, the middle and the bottom will be denied.

As one of the other commenters said, I do hope that in the next four years you not only work as hard as you have done in the last four, but you also take time to stop and smell the roses and eat ice cream and read books and watch movies and cook amazing food. Feed your soul as much as you feed your brain. Life is a long haul trip. All the best to you whichever college you end up at.

@applicant4c Here is another thread a few weeks ago that talked about rejection from a similar school:
http://talk.qa.collegeconfidential.com/cornell-university/2061165-why-was-i-rejected-ed-p1.html
The OP was rejected by Cornell ED (24.3%) and accepted thru Columbia LL (less than 0.5%)! You cannot always go by the acceptance rate as a measure of selectivity. Just hang in there and hopefully the good news will arrive in a week or two.

With schools like that, after a certain point, there’s no way to stand out. It’s basically luck. You’re just another average applicant out of tens of thousands. And it’s very common to get rejected by all of them too. There’s one thing all of these schools have in common. They’re all overrated.

Here’s my advice. Spend some time soul searching, researching, and dreaming about what you want to do with your career. Dreams are things that can be converted into fruitful accomplishments later. A college is only a brand name tool used to achieve a dream. It’s no more a dream than owning a Chevy. Just because the school is selective, doesn’t make it any more a bachelors degree. 99.5% of the workforce run our massive economy without ever going to an ivy college. The other 0.5% still work in the same economy as everyone else making the same relative pay. Don’t go killing yourself for grades. You already have the grades to get a full ride scholarship just about anywhere.