<p>Hi guys, my question is the title of the thread, but with a little caveat. What are the all the frats?
What are the reqs for admission?
And, do you have to do things like you hear from rumors? (Drinking a whole six pack, drinkin an outrageous amount of water, etc.)</p>
<p>I would love to know, as I hope to be goin to UCLA next year and would like to be part of a frat.</p>
<p>Thanks guys!!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.greeklife.ucla.edu/%5B/url%5D">http://www.greeklife.ucla.edu/</a></p>
<p>LaxAttack09... where are you?</p>
<p>You're in for a lot more than you bargained for if the worst rumors you've heard are drinking a "whole six pack" and an "outrageous amount of water." Did you hear that from someone going to BYU or something?</p>
<p>If you do go here, you won't have any trouble finding out information about frats during zero week. Frat information is ubiquitous. You'll have more fliers than you know what to do with.</p>
<p>greek system is like high school all over again. everyone knows everyones business. and you'll have to do a hell of a lot more than drinking a six pack of beer.</p>
<p>seriously, 6-pack? cmon</p>
<p>i drink more than that of shot-equivalents at parties...hell i need more than 6 shots to get buzzed...yea you definitely need more info</p>
<p>of course these are not the things they tell you, you start experiencing only when you start pledging</p>
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You're in for a lot more than you bargained for if the worst rumors you've heard are drinking a "whole six pack" and an "outrageous amount of water." Did you hear that from someone going to BYU or something?
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<p>hahahaha qft</p>
<p>During zero week here at UCLA (and during first week), you'll get spammed with flyers from different organizations. Check out <a href="http://www.greeklife.ucla.edu%5B/url%5D">http://www.greeklife.ucla.edu</a> around the beginning of fall quarter. Get information about rush. You've got to experience it yourself rather than relying on the opinions of others.</p>
<p>lol @ cc'ers who have no clue about something talking about it. During spring rush you'll be able to go to all the houses and hang out w/ the brothers. Some houses you'll "click" with and some houses you wont, if you want to pledge do so at the ones you click with. These are the guys you are going to be very close with during your college time, so it only makes sense that you mesh with them. </p>
<p>Hazing is way the hell overblown. This isn't animal house, and just because you heard of some fraternity in the middle of nowhere that hazed doesn't mean everyone else does. In my fraternity I never, EVER, had to do anything I didn't want to. On top of this I was NEVER asked to do something that was even borderline hazing. Every fraternity knows that you can get screwed, bigtime, if you haze. As such every fraternity I know of at UCLA (5, one which I pledged and the others where I have friends at) doesn't haze. We were told in the beginning by our pledge educator (the person who leads you through the pledging process) that if we were EVER asked to do something that we didn't want to by another brother we just had to tell them we didn't want to do it and that was that. Furthermore 99% of brothers know this and aren't going to put you in a bad situation by asking you to do something that could even borderline on hazing. If you are put in a situation like this 1) other brothers will tell w/e brother is "hazing" you to knock it the ***** off and 2) you simply don't have to do it?? Say no, tell somebody, and everything will be cool. Listen, in the past years the fraternities on a national level have cracked down on this, and at a school like UCLA, where people look towards a bright future and don't want some lawsuit/criminal action to mess it up for them, they wont but you NOR themselves in a situation like this. </p>
<p>It's fun to say fraternities haze, make you do bad stuff. However the people who tell you this haven't been in a fraternity, they haven't gone through it. You're going to have to memorize stuff, pay your dues, but you WON'T be hazed (at least at the 5 fraternities that I know about @ ucla, which are all major ones.....which I won't name).</p>
<p>LaxAttack, I'm really trying hard here to say this and not come off like a dick. But I mean, what you typed, although it may have been true for your own experience, is wrong from what I've seen. And to generalize an entire campus based off some of the assumptions you have is just misleading.</p>
<p>Here's the point I want to make. Pledging a fraternity can be an extremely rewarding experience, depending on your situation and outlook. It requires a lot of dedication, time, and energy, but on the whole, it's worth it. </p>
<p>But don't make the mistake that it's all sunshine and kittens.</p>
<p>"You're in for a lot more than you bargained for." What are the kinds of things you have to do then? I hope it's not too bad. (Still tell me though even if it is very nasty)</p>
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<p>bold statement. you obviously have not been exposed to a variety of frats. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>btw, i don't think any frat will FORCE you to do something. obviously, they will not physically harm you or physically make you do something - everything is by choice. however, pledgees usually get hazed due to peer pressure and other factors.</p>
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bold statement. you obviously have not been exposed to a variety of frats. </p>
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<p>And what ones have you been exposed to? Please tell! What did they make the pledges do?</p>
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<p>What have you seen? Explain in detail.....</p>
<p>No. Look dude, I don't know whether you're being sarcastic or just demanding, but what would it benefit me to "explain in detail" the pledging process in my fraternity as well as my friend's fraternities? I have much more of an allegiance to those people, than I do to you -- especially when you possess such a holier-than-thou attitude about the whole process. </p>
<p>Here's what I'll say to beatlesguy: If you like partying and drinking, then there's a good chance a fraternity is the right choice for you. It doesn't always work like that, but often, that's what it boils down to. In that case, whatever you have to do during pledge quarter -- it could suck a lot, or it could be relatively mild depending on which house you join -- will be far outweighed by all the benefits that a fraternity brings.</p>
<p>I mean, yeah, it's more than a six pack -- a lot more in fact, but once you have some time to reflect on it, it's really not that bad. I mean, hell, if I had to pledge all over again, even knowing what I know, I'd gladly do it.</p>
<p>what akorch16 said.</p>
<p>although you went through pledging without getting "hazed", that's just your personal experience. you can't just assume that other people who have said there is hazing haven't gone through with it themselves.</p>
<p>Fraternities are more than just drinking and partying, there is serious brotherhood. And before people start cracking jokes about "paying for friendship" or "frats are for fags", let me tell you, in my fraternity we are true brothers. If a brother needs my help with something, be it helping him study for his midterm or picking him up from LAX at 3 am, I not only do it, but I am honesty glad to do it. And I know for a fact that any brother would do the same for me.</p>
<p>Many might roll their eyes and say "yeah right" who in their right mind is glad to go far out of their way to help some other kid. Well, you need to pledge a fraternity to experience such emotions. Its truly the best thing you can ever do, but of course I can only speak from experience of one fraternity, I know little of the brotherhood of other fraternities.</p>
<p>And I'm serious, other than my family and my brothers, I don't give a $hit about anyone else, honestly. Your brothers become so close to you, my brothers are my absolute best friends I have spent so much time with each of them, more time than I even spent with my good high school friends</p>
<p>Pledging establishes this bond - you become soo close to the people in your pledge class, the activities are meant to establish this bond between you.</p>
<p>If you are Jewish, or have any Jewish friends thinking about pledging a fraternity, PM me and we will talk about Spring Rush at Alpha Epsilon Pi.</p>
<p>josephr115 pretty much summed up my experience during pledging.</p>
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Pledging establishes this bond - you become soo close to the people in your pledge class, the activities are meant to establish this bond between you.
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<p>And if you don't like the people in your pc, GET OUT! GET OUT!! Cause you'll be stuck with them otherwise.</p>
<p>Some fraternities do haze, really. Like, drinking a liter of vegetable oil.</p>
<p>josephr,</p>
<p>I agree that one of the central components to a fraternity is the "brotherhood" aspect. However, what I was trying to convey was that no one initially joins a fraternity looking for brotherhood. Usually, they join for the parties, drinking, and the girls. The brotherhood usually comes after.</p>
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<p>In which case the pledge is just as much at fault as the fraternity. Nobody is going to <em>force</em> you to do anything. If you have half a mind just say no, it's not that difficult.</p>
<p>Hah! I've drunk a liter of vegetable oil on my own will. its called a liver cleanse. </p>
<p>i personally don't care for the greek system but live and let live. if you think you might like it try it and you'll see.</p>