How do they do it? :Research and Undergrad First-author Publications

<p>I can’t speak for engineering/math/physics fields, but in my field I currently have a manuscript in preparation for which I will be first author if I’m published. I did the research as an undergrad, I graduated recently and I’m not in a masters program.</p>

<p>I would say a lot of it comes down to luck, for my field. I made it a goal to work on a number of projects so that hopefully one would end up in a publication. In my case, I got particularly lucky. I took over a project from a post doc who left the lab and was able to make enough of a contribution to the project in terms of design and direction to get first authorship. </p>

<p>So honestly I think it mostly comes down to circumstance and what type of lab you’re working in, but perseverance also helps.</p>

<p>I would by no means say that you need a first author paper to get into a top grad school though.</p>

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<p>This thread has generated a multitude of suggestions regarding how to become a first (or at least a ‘relatively prominent’) author on a research pub. You could certainly follow the suggestions put forth; I am not arguing otherwise. </p>

<p>However, I would say that a far more interesting question would be how you might become sole author on a research pub. That would obviously entail - if the work is empirical - collecting the entire dataset yourself, cleaning and analyzing that data (which would obviously require learning how to do so), and perusing the contents of target journals to understand the type of format and writing-style they prefer so that you can properly submit your manuscript. If rejected by that journal, learn the format of another journal to submit there, etc.</p>

<p>Practically speaking, the procedure likely requires pursuing a topic that you personally enjoy, such that you would be personally interested in the outcome. {Trust me, it’s excruciatingly difficult to produce a publication regarding a research project that you don’t care about. If you don’t care, then you simply won’t do the work.} For example, one could simply imagine devising a research question purely from your personal hobbies, such as which rappers actually exhibit the greatest ‘centrality’ within the social-networking graph as exhibited by lyrical collaboration. {For example, ‘the most central rapper’ would be whoever collaborates on lyrics with the most other rappers who themselves also collaborate with the most other rappers, or in other words, which rapper would have the shortest lyrical pathway of a game of ‘6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon’ .} You could then pull the necessary data for free from various rapper-lyrics websites (for example, you could write a web-spider program using Perl to extract the data from the websites). Then analyze the data using various freeware social networking analysis software such as Pajek, StocNet, R Statnet/Igraph, or Python Netminer (a simple graphical tool such as basic Pajek probably would only take you a couple of days to learn). Then just write it and publish it in an academic science journal.</p>

<p>Ridiculous, some of you might say? An outlandish fantasy? Oh wait, [that</a> already happened](<a href=“http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0511215v4.pdf]that”>http://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0511215v4.pdf) having been published in an[academic</a> journal](<a href=“IOPscience::.. Error!”>The network of collaboration among rappers and its community structure - IOPscience). Apparently 2Pac and the Wu-Tang Clan are highly central rappers.* </p>

<p>Heck, you may even be able to dispense with the entire data collection step entirely and - with proper attribution natch- simply use data that somebody else has already compiled and is offering. For example, one could imagine analyzing the social network of comic book superheroes by taking social networking data that somebody else had collected regarding the Marvel Universe, and then examining the closest social networking connections amongst the various characters. You could then publish that. </p>

<p>Oh wait, [somebody</a> did that too.](<a href=“http://arxiv.org/pdf/0708.2410v1.pdf]somebody”>http://arxiv.org/pdf/0708.2410v1.pdf) And that paper also was published in [an academic journal](<a href=“Radware Bot Manager Captcha”>Radware Bot Manager Captcha). Apparently while important social networking jumps characterize the links amongst individual members of The Avengers (i.e. Captain America & Beast, Captain America & Thing, Hulk & Namor McKenzie/SubMariner), the deepest link is between Spiderman and Mary Jane. </p>

<p>Or if hands-on work is more your cup of tea, you could join the myriad technology ‘hacking’ communities that have bloomed around. For example, consider the snazzy technology projects that hobbyists have built around the [Microsoft</a> Kinect](<a href=“http://www.popsci.com/diy/article/2010-11/five-hacks-free-microsofts-kinect-xbox]Microsoft”>Hacking Microsoft's Kinect: Two Weeks In, Six Amazing Projects) or the [Nintendo</a> Wii](<a href=“http://hacknmod.com/hack/top-30-wiimote-hacks-of-the-web/]Nintendo”>http://hacknmod.com/hack/top-30-wiimote-hacks-of-the-web/), which you can obtain for less than a few hundred dollars. Heck, Microsoft even [launched[/url</a>] an official Kinect SDK available for free (as long as you don’t attempt to generate profit from your project, otherwise, you can purchase a commercial SDK license, which still isn’t that much: just another few hundred dollars}. Heck, you might even be able to [url=<a href=“http://arxiv.org/pdf/1108.5022.pdf]publish[/url”>http://arxiv.org/pdf/1108.5022.pdf]publish[/url</a>] a project you build around the Kinect/Wii. </p>

<p>So to reiterate, while you could obviously follow the traditional pathway of joining an established university lab and hoping to impress the professor sufficiently to head your own project and become first author of a collaborative piece (and I’m not saying that there’s anything wrong with that), there is also substantial opportunity to become sole author on a project that you design and publish yourself, using gear that is either freeware or can be bought for just a few hundred dollars. Even if it never becomes a publication, at least you were able to pursue a personal hobby of yours while also surely boosting your own resume. For example, I’d be most impressed with an engineering undergraduate who has actually built his own [url=<a href=“http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-03/31/kinect-drone]Kinect-enabled”>Kinect-carrying drone automatically builds 3D maps of rooms | WIRED UK]Kinect-enabled</a> unmanned surveillance flying drone](<a href=“Microsoft Research – Emerging Technology, Computer, and Software Research”>Microsoft Research – Emerging Technology, Computer, and Software Research). </p>

<p>*Also note, you ought not to be intimidated by the author’s references to the ‘Bouchet-Franklin Research Institute’, as that’s just the working name of a one-man ‘research institute’ that he personally launched and runs and is nothing more than a PO Box. Indeed, he completed this paper in his spare time while an MBA student at MIT.</p>

<p>Barlum, I’ll amend my remarks to the point of “Research to the point of being first or even second/third author isn’t nearly as universal an experience or prerequisite for a top PhD program as many seem to think.”</p>

<p>I’m not inclined to do my own research and conduct some sort of regression analysis to find which fields this is more or less true…though it might be an interesting topic for someone.</p>

<p>The one plus of a LAC: there aren’t grad students around who hog all the best research opportunities so for what research there is, the undergrad has a clearer field to participate.</p>

<p>How do you guys work on undergraduate research? Do you just help a grad student?
My professor gave me my own topic and basically he guides me and I work on it alone. Is this good for me?</p>

<p>scofield1990,</p>

<p>Yes, that’s usually better since you have more involvement in the research process (Like b@rium said earlier) . When I was working with a graduate student as an undergrad, I contribute very little to the overall project. It was more slave work for me repeating the same task over.</p>

<p>Trust Sakky to write something reaaly long</p>

<p>Anyways feeling sleepy but I might as well contribute since I have been following the thread for a while:</p>

<p>My tiny opinion:As already mentioned its very very field specific. Some fields you require significant background knowledge to even start to do make any sort of meaningful contribution and so research is not expected (Math, economics, social sciences, accounting & finance e.t.c) - I have friends who did pure math at Cambridge and have never done research or even know where to start though they go to top math grad schools. Its really not a prerequisite for such fields. </p>

<p>Now though Lab sciences (Especially biology and chemistry) its very common to get publications and lab experience is very much expected. People get publications from doing just 3 months of research, usually in a low-impact journal. Not too difficult you are sure to find a journal which would publish anything one of the beauties of academia. Would this be helpful for grad school?- yeah it would be though its not necessarily a ticket to a top grad school.</p>

<p>Excellent research recommendations from certain professors though from what I have heard are better tickets</p>

<p>I have a sibling who got a math publication in his/her sophomore year in mathematics in a decent journal for like just 3 months of math research. As I said not too hard lots of journals would accept any sort of junk and refer to it as research.</p>

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And if I were on the admissions committee, I’d roll my eyes at “junk” published in a “low impact” journal. I’d count ele’s “slave labor” at least as much if it were in the context of a heavier weight project.</p>

<p>I think I’d also make a distinction between “lab experience” and “publications”. In bio & chem, I’d expect the formal to be pretty common.</p>

<p>@TheDad, I don’t think I would agree that a high impact journal would give you a a really big advantage over a mid tier or lower impact journal when it comes to graduate admissions, since as an undergrad you don’t really have much control over that unless you’re first author (and that would still be limited depending on the field of research).</p>

<p>And I would definitely disagree that someone who’s an author on a high impact journal publication who only did slave labor has more valuable research experience than someone who got onto a mid-tier journal paper while playing a more active role in the project. And I think admissions committees can definitely tell the difference when it comes up in the personal statement.</p>

<p>Gt, “junk” is “junk,” first position or no. Whereas I the issue of control is irrelevant to what you learn from the experience. Imo.</p>

<p>One does not have to have a published paper (or even a pending paper) to show research initiative; internships, volunteer work or attendance at summer programs specializing in the graduate work you want to do, look just as good.</p>

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<p>Just so. [10 char]</p>

<p>Sorry to disturb this thread, but Sakky i’m trying to private message you but it doesn’t permit me to do so because your inbox is full… if possible, can you clear a spot and message me? Thanks.</p>

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<p>Hey, the truth is, plenty of “junk” gets published in top-tier journals as well.</p>

<p>Sakky: touch</p>