<p>There are people who are nonconformist for the sake of being nonconformist; however, I believe these people are the minority compared to other nonconformists. Many people, like I, are not nonconformist because the conformist culture simply does not fit their taste. Conformists tend to label conformists as purposeful and give them a stereotype of their own: the “purposely nonconformist” stereotype. I highly doubt that the backlash against nonconformist is legit.</p>
<p>@wanton umm wow first of all get of you f ing high horse W T F makes you think you are so smart and better than everyone else!!! Also b i t c h move much?! Do you even know what I hater is because it doesn’t seem like it! One more thing it wasn’t an open invintation I told you to leave if you don’t like this kind of stuff which you just said you don’t also by the sound of it you are not a teenager which leads me to say this W T F are you doing on HSL if you say you don’t like most teenagers?!! So congrats you got your little ego boost of the day from teenagers online… I have some advice for you GO GET AN F ING LIFE!! And maybe some friends and a relationship (you might have to look up that second one because I doubt you know what it means lol) B I T C H!</p>
<p>Haha fabulous use of insults. You wouldn’t be insulting me if you had any thoughts of value to add.
I’m seventeen. Again, I don’t hate people, I hate thoughts. In this case I hate “general ignorance and immaturity.” This is usually not on CC, most people are pretty mature, while being teenagers. I like that because I spend most of my time with older university students, and sometimes it’s nice to see what other high school students are dealing with, without the melodrama and “hater” cliches thrown around.
I have plenty of friends, and I am in a fulfilling relationship. I don’t see why that’s any of your business though, and why that’s subject to your scrutiny. I did not make a thread on a public forum asking for peoples “feelings” on my life.</p>
<p>Also, I’m pretty sure going around the word filter results in some sort of penalty. You should probably edit that out unless you want mods on you. In conclusion, I’m not going to respond to you anymore, because I know when I have nothing else of value to add to a conversation.</p>
<p>Or your not going to respond because you know I’m right and you just made all the crap up! 
anyway </p>
<p>BUMP back to the subject so what do other people think?</p>
<p>Honestly I kinda hate conformist but I also feel there is a certain point were you should conform or else you will be labeled an annoying snob</p>
<p>I agree…being a non-conformist doesn’t mean you’re exempt from showering like everyone else. There’s a certain limit. :B</p>
<p>Also, as everyone already knows, the emo/scenester/goth/skate-punk thing is not “non-conformist”, because most of the people who are part of these scenes now started just to “look cool/edgy/dark”. The REAL emos came out of DC in the 80s, and DC also had a sizable punk scene (Minor Threat, etc) by then as well. Not trying to start a flame-war here, but I’m just telling it like it is.</p>
<p>I am a person who can be kind of crafty with words; I know what type of thing to say to people so that I gain a good reaction, what to write for a school paper to gain a high mark, what to say to people which will boost their ego. However, I like doing what I feel I want to say, which is putting in irony and my sense of humor. I hate not having a choice in what I say, so I guess I’m more an individual than a conformist, but sometimes I just take the easy way out and say the appropriate thing to avoid trouble. Many of my teachers think my writing is a step ahead or too different from what they wanted when I present an interesting idea, on the other hand, they regard my writing very highly when I just write what is unoriginal and cliche.</p>
<p>Hahaha hanana I noticed the same thing among my less introspective English teachers. I think it’s because they see literature in cliches, rather than searching for original thought. Because really for many of them, their jobs are just teaching students to identify the cliches and analyze accordingly. It is the easiest way to get students to pass their stupid tests.
“Pornography is… the copulation of cliches.” --Nabokov
Our teachers love porn!</p>
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<p>Sad, yet sosososo true. I love that about strong conformists, they are often so uninformed, they are easy to convince about everything. On the flip side, anti-conformists bother me because they can be really annoyingly critical of everyone and they try so damn hard not to be mainstream…</p>
<p>Disregarding the whole conformist/non-conformist crap for a moment, I’d just like to tell the OP that I empathize with you.</p>
<p>I had a similar situation happen–albeit in 5th grade, so this seems a bit juvenile, but anyway–there was a girl no one much liked, and I tried to be really nice to her and have her sit with my friends and me at lunch and, honestly, I got her where she was. Which sounds totally conceited and d o u c h e y but is actually quite true. Then, she forms this exclusive little group–with one of my BEST friends, and these two other boys. For like 6 months, they all sat together at lunch, hung out at recess, whispered about stuff–when I tried to get my BEST friend to include me, she said they were talking about secret group stuff and I should wait while they whispered and giggled. It felt really dang awful, and I was jealous and felt excluded and upset. So I totally get where you’re coming from.</p>
<p>Honestly I think it shouldn’t be a huge deal. Maybe YOU organize an ice skating trip next time. If it’s really bugging you, just ask one of your friends or Matt why you weren’t invited. It might be awkward, but you can make them understand that you wanted to go along, and there might be a simple explanation for this that would make you feel better.</p>
<p>Good luck, relax, and feel better soon!
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<p>Do you wonder why you didn’t get invited?</p>
<p>People like “conformists” because they’re easier to anticipate. Even people who attach themselves to cliches that claim to be nonconformist are preferred because you can at least have a fairly good idea of what they like, what they hate, how they’ll act, and how they will judge you, which makes interacting with them so much easier than having to ask awkward questions about their work and family life or whatever the hell else. However, being a “follower” or a “conformist” isn’t necessarily mutually exclusive with being outspoken in your ideas, and what you’ve got going on here doesn’t seem to be a matter of that at all.</p>
<p>Anyway, back to your actual problem. I think Matt just appears very friendly and approachable to your friends - perhaps due to his introverted nature and desire to appease everybody - and because of that everyone wants to have him around. You should also consider that whenever someone is introduced into a core group of friends, there is always a mandatory get-to-know-him grace period, where your friends will want to get to know what he’s like on his own. Because you introduced him, they want to see how he acts without you as his crutch. </p>
<p>Give them some space. If it’s still on your mind, casually ask them about their trip. Show that, while it doesn’t really bother you, you’d still like to be invited to the next trip. Or, like quomodo suggested, just start your own.</p>
<p>to all the people asking about why I didn’t get invited it was most likely because I am not really friends with most of the people who went some other people weren’t invited but they are making another trip for those people (I was sorta invited but I said no because I can’t skate but I did make other plans). Also I did talk about the trip with Matt everything is awesome now :)</p>
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Yeah, all my English teachers are like this, only my creative writing mentor tries to see the more intriguing and thought provoking ideas it frustrates me. I almost hate the fact that they tell us to think of interesting ideas and how cliches aren’t good yet they like it when students write pretty much the same thing as the examples they show us.</p>
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Oh the secret groups we used to have when we were little girls. I think excluding the people who have helped you socially gives you a feeling powerful like you are part of authority? Because there have been a lot of that type of drama in my life as a child, and I could never understand why my “friends” did that to each other.</p>