How do you rank the following combined medical program

Pre-Med & Medical School Multiple Degree Programs
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<p>If based on the combined quality of both pre-med and medical program:</p>

<p>Brown PLME
Case western PPSP
UPitts GAP
Rochester REMS
Northwestern HPME
Rice/Baylor
BU 7yr BS/MS
USC Bac/MD</p>

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<ol>
<li>Rice/Baylor</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>UPitt</li>
<li>Case </li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>Rochester</li>
<li>BU </li>
</ol>

<p>Just my opinion…</p>

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<ol>
<li>Rice/Baylor</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>UPitt</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Case</li>
<li>BU </li>
<li>Rochester</li>
</ol>

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<p>Respective rankings of BS and MD((research) in the parenthesis = (BS, MD)

  1. Northwestern (12-18)
  2. Rice/Baylor (17-24)
  3. Brown (15-32)
  4. USC (23-34)
  5. Rochester (37-32)
  6. Case (41-20)
  7. BU (56-34)
  8. UPitt (64-14)</p>

<p>It really depends on what you count as more important. MD (Step#1 etc.) is largely up to you, but undergrad is largely determined by the school environment. When the undergrad ranking is so low, you should really reconsider.</p>

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<p>But if your final goal is to be a doctor, does the matching program weigh your med school more or Undergrad more? So that’s why I want to rank them based on combination of the two.</p>

<p>If some one from a low ranked state university get into a top ranked med school, does it still matter where he got his bachelor degree?</p>

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<p>I would put those schools in 2 levels, it is very subjective

  1. Northwestern (12-18), Rice/Baylor (17-24), Brown (15-32)
  2. USC (23-34), Rochester (37-32), Case (41-20), BU (56-34), UPitt (64-14)</p>

<p>Reason:

  1. the current ranking doesn’t mean it won’t change next year or next 5 years or 10 years.
  2. Would like to see the school’s ambition to become a world class medical school, in this sense, i will select Brown as my first choice to bet next 10 year’s rank and its Ivy league icon.</p>
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<p>a couple things. I think NOrthwesterns matches are better than baylor’s, but both are great. I like chicago as a location. Ranks are really really really weird-its based on things like funding, not patient exposure. Baylor has great patient exposure, apparently NU is starting to focus more on this. </p>

<p>for me

  1. Northwestern
  2. Rice/Baylor
  3. Brown (brown med is not great-the exposure isnt there, but the programs as a whole is solid)
  4. USC
  5. UPITT/Case
  6. BU
  7. Rochester</p>

<p>I would actually add Miami to a top ten list-I went to an interview here and while programs like NU are clearly better-miller students seem really really happy there. The program also knows what its doing-its extremely flexible as well.</p>

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<p>"If some one from a low ranked state university get into a top ranked med school, does it still matter where he got his bachelor degree? "</p>

<p>-Not at all as well as it does not matter if you get into a top ranked med. school or into the last ranked med. school in the USA. lots of people would be very happy to have one single spot at any American med. School to become an MD.</p>

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<p>IMO:</p>

<ol>
<li>UPitts</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Baylor</li>
<li>Case</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Rochester</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>BU</li>
</ol>

<p>No one would care where did u get you get your UG finished if you finaly become a physician.</p>

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<p>“No one would care where did u get you get your UG finished if you finaly become a physician.”</p>

<p>One thing you would keep in mind is - you want to keep many options open in the future, so if there is a good opportunity arise, you can easily switch your gear. In this regard, if the school’s rank is low (med school and/or UG), the connection is bit limited. For high ranking jobs, i would bet prestigious schools have better chance taking the crown.</p>

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<p>^It is hugely depends on major. Choosing for the sake of prestige might be completely redundant and if student personality does not fit with the place, it might make one very unhappy for 4 years of his life. Visit, talk to people, get a feel of campus and make decision for yourself based on your opinion, not others’.</p>

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<p>1) USC Bac/MD! (a bit biased since I am from So Cal and am in the program)
2) HPME
3) PLME
4) Rice/Baylor
The rest are also good.</p>

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<p>Lol, isn’t Case PPSP like impossible to get into? Yet, it’s ranked so low. Why is that?</p>

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<p>Case seems to be a sleeper. Little known of and located in dreadful Cleveland.
By some measures, med school is ranked #22, same as Baylor and UTSW. Higher than BU. Rochester is also weird. Emphasis is research, so may take lower stats, given the right interest/background. Brown is an average school, but tough to get in. It is ranked/thought off lower by those in the field.
R/B,HPME
Case,Pitt,USC
BU,PLME</p>

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<p>Okayy, I see.</p>

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<p>“Case seems to be a sleeper. Little known of and located in dreadful Cleveland.”</p>

<p>-Very strange comment. PPSP at Case is one of the most popular combined bs/md that is impossible to get into even for very top kids who graduated #1 from private prep. schools. They accept about 15, applicant pool is usually over thousand. There is nothing dreadful about Cleveland either. Med. School seems to care very much about it’s students. Connection to Cleveland Clinic alone is an a great advantage. Awesome place to be. Very hard to get in.</p>

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<p>^What would I have to do to get in?</p>

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<p>Having connections. Other than that it is a toss up. However, do not be so desparate if you do not get into PPSP. D. was rejected pre-interview 4 years ago. Went to another bs/md at state school. Applied out to several Med. Schools outside of her combined program. Got into Case (that first magical night of Oct. 16 when Med. Schools are allowed to call their first acceptances, which indicated that Case really wanted her) and few other Med. Schools. Choose to go to Case, turned down Northwestern Med. School for Case, felt that Case is a better fit for her.
So, do not be too upset if you get rejected. You will have chances later.<br>
BTW, there is no guarantee for any bs/md, all of them are extremely selective. However, if you apply widely and not only to most popular ones, you will have a better chance. D. was accepted to 3, all at IS state schools four years ago.</p>

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<p>My child’s sentiment, not my own. Was accepted by Case PPSP, with scholarship money. Public high school, no connection. Personally I like both the UG and Med Sch components. Case is more well known in the Midwest. Quite a number of applicants are from Detroit on the day of the visit, which included Premed, Predent and Prelaw. Medical School is ranked highly and last year’s match was incredible. No MCAT is sweet.
But what can you do? You are not the one who will be attending the school and will have to live eight years in Cleveland. Does not help that most of the posts online are negative. The orientation, I have to admit, pales in comparison with USC. A major thoroughfare bisects the campus. Infrastructure is a bit rundown. But a new hospital is opening soon.</p>

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<p>Well D. is very excited to start at Case Medical School in less than a months. As much as most do not care about Cleveland, she did not care about Chicago, believe it or not. Everybody is different. Her best firend has been in PPSP and loved it. She is going to a different Med. School due to the fact that it will be free for her.<br>
My D. did not get Merit award to go to Med. School and it is expensive. We did not pay for her UG, so it is time to pay. BTW, Merit awards at Case are for UG (D. got very good one, we had only $5k balance to pay for tuition if she had decided to go there for UG). No MCAT also means no Merit award for Med. School. This year it was not much $$ for Med. School Merit awards.</p>