How does being an international student affect admissions?

<p>greenblue is right. If you are talking about admittance rate for everyone, then it is 100/1000, which is 10%. If you are talking about admittance for female or male, then it is 50/500 (assuming equal number of males and females apply), which is also 10%.</p>

<p>In the case of MIT, where there are more males than females who apply, then admit rate for male is much lower than for females because they are trying to keep 50-50 ratio.</p>

<p>oldfort, students dont GET,or even THINK about it until it is pointed out, that when there are 100 openings, only HALF will ACTUALLY be awarded to the students of the same sex… they look at at 10 % admit rate, and the number of openings and think they have an OVERALL 10% shot at one of those 100 openings! I have seen this too many times to try and count. That is the point I’m making. sheesh…</p>

<p>And there are 50% of male and female. sheesh…? Your calculation is not mathematically correct. If there are 50 openings for one sex, then the denominator is 500, not 1000.</p>

<p>im trying to point out that applicants dont always do the “unspoken” % of females/ % of males calculations when gauging whether they have a “chance”, thats all. I guess you’ve never encountered that situation with students you are talking to, so carry on professor. </p>

<p>I’m done with this thread.</p>

<p>Of course you do.</p>

<p>MIT 2011 - 11,615 men applied, 5017 women applied, total 16632.
878 men admitted, 798 women admitted, total admitted 1676
admit rate for men = 878/11615= 7.6%
admit rate for women = 798/5017 = 15.9%
Total overall admit rate = 1676/16632 =10.08%</p>

<p>If the MIT stats didn’t make it clear, there is no “unspoken” percentage. </p>

<p>1000 people apply to Harvard (500 male 500 female)
100 people get in (50 male 50 female)</p>

<p>So the acceptance rate for the average person is 100/1000 or 10%.
The acceptance rate for the average male is 50/500 or 10%.
The acceptance rate for the average female is 50/500 or 10%.</p>

<p>Logically, it makes no sense to divide the acceptance rate into subcategories.</p>

<p>10%/2 for gender
(10%/2)/3 for race
((10%/2)/3)/12 for birthday month</p>

<p>So the average female Asian born in July would actually only have a .1389% chance.</p>

<p>Actually, sometimes it does make sense to consider gender. Many tech-heavy institutions are easier for women to get into, and many LACs are easier for men to get into. This issue has been addressed at CC multiple times.</p>

<p>Being international is a big disadvantage is your applying to need-blind schools such as MIT, Harvard, Princeton, where financial matters are not considered in the admissions process. Therefore, they need to set quotas to limit the number of internationals. However, at schools like Upenn, being an international that DOESN’T require any financial assistance will not put you at a disadvantage.</p>

<p>I have a quote from a Businessweek article:
Source: [What</a> Wharton Wants](<a href=“Bloomberg - Are you a robot?”>Bloomberg - Are you a robot?)</p>

<p>"I’m 17 years old, and I attend the International School in Munich, Germany. Is there a smaller chance of getting accepted at your school as an international student?</p>

<p>Stetson: Only if you’re applying for financial aid. We have a reduced number of aid grants for international students.</p>

<p>In all, if you’re applying for financial aid, you’re in trouble</p>

<p>If you have been studying in a US high school, and will have a US high school diploma, most universities will treat you as an American candidate, except for financial aid. </p>

<p>To the poster who said that Dartmouth said to apply as an international student, all Ivy League universities organize applicants by roster, depending on where their school is located. This is where the major distinction is made.</p>

<p>Some universities treat students who are not citizens or permanent residents differently, largely because this affects eligibility for financial aid. As these funds can be limited, it can sometimes be harder to get in if you are classified as non-US.</p>