How does GSP look to transfer elsewhere?

<p>I don't know if this question has been asked, but I was wondering if any of you knew how GSP looks to universities you want to transfer to after your freshman year. See, I was thinking about going to NYU for a year and doing the GSP thing since that's where they put me, and then transferring to Rice. Would GSP credits from NYU look better to Rice than, say, honors college credits at Baylor? Those are my options...</p>

<p>maybe not an honors college, but gsp does well with transfers. :-)</p>

<p>I had the same question; I'm definitely looking at nyu as my college next year, and I may transfer to cornell after that. This is not a definite decision, just something I'm considering since I was rejected cornell RD as a freshman applicant. Either way, I'll be happy to go to nyu but I'm wondering if gsp kids transfer as easily as other nyu kids.</p>

<p>gsp is like community college except you will transfer straight into NYU regular after finishing the program. The only time you wouldn't continue into NYU is when you are transferring to another University or you don't have the grades to remain.</p>

<p>how is it like community college? In a cc, you attend for two years, get your associates, then transfer to a different university for your bachelors/masters if you want. GSP is a program you're in for a maximum of two years (although I've heard of people leaving after 1 year) and then you go on to choose a major and join the college you originally intended to. </p>

<p>Anyway, thanks for the answer racpaime, but I already know you can transfer out if you want; What I am wondering is, are other colleges less inclined to accept you as a transfer student if you're from GSP rather than say, CAS? </p>

<p>I know colleges have really low acceptance rates for transfer students. I also know that they take into consideration what college you're transferring from, and the rigor of the program. Some would say GSP isn't as rigorous as CAS or another nyu school, so would that make it more difficult to transfer?</p>

<p>I second your question Molly. You worded it better than I did.</p>

<p>Go for the honors college. It's also not worth going to NYU for 1 year at GSP and not stay until you make it to CAS. If you know that you want to transfer, I would go for either the cheaper school or honors college or whatever. The honors college in my opinion would look better than GSP.</p>

<p>I guess it depends where you're transferring to, but my friend at Cornell (where I want to transfer) says that if you transfer to Cornell from a top school, as opposed to an average one, you will have a better chance getting in, just because the school you attended has more rigorous classes. She transferred to Cornell from Dartmouth, with only a 3.6, and says had the 3.6 been from an average school she wouldn't have gotten in.</p>

<p>I'm probably going to go to nyu anyway, even If I weren't planning to transfer. But I actually think nyu's gsp program is more rigorous than, say, the honors program at U.Mass or Boston U. I was accepted to both of those but don't really like either school, but I am thinking of going to Fordham or Binghamton next year as well.</p>

<p>molly4190, if you have been accepted by NYU for GSP the admission officers believe you can do the work at NYU. The "hardest" course in NYU is "Writing the Essay". It is infamous at NYU and my girlfriend got a C. However, like most colleges NYU has a writing center. If you made the final decision to go to NYU and had trouble in NYU's expository writing course, don't be afraid to take up the resources that NYU has (writing center). I believe my girlfriend probably got a C because she never went to get help when she should (I hope she does not find out I said this about her :cough cough:). </p>

<p>Fordham and Binghamton may be seem as less rigorous with their lower rankings but they are not as easy either. Although the work does not seem difficult to me at Fordham, there are some students that actually end up with low grades in the courses I take.</p>

<p>Also, we do not know exactly what the Cornell admission officers were thinking about your friend when they accept her. Dartmouth may have help her or not. It may be best to ask the Cornell's admission office (preferably when they aren't busy with applications). Some admission counselors are nice enough to tell you some tips or whether the school/program is taken in consideration. </p>

<p>Think carefully of every decision you make. Each of them has its positive and negative side. Oh, and remember to send in your deposit on time when you finally decided! Regardless of your decision, there's a lot of work up ahead and do not be surprised by it.</p>

<p>thanks, scion, your posts are always so helpful :)
I think my decision is coming down to Fordham and NYU...I have ruled 6 other colleges off the list. I like both, but after attending an NYU gsp info session, I think I like it more. The NYU open house is this weekend, and then the following week I have Fordhams open house, and then I will make my final decision, but right now I'm leaning towards NYU. Both schools are really really good, but NYU just has those extra resources Fordham doesn't. Plus I don't really want to go to a Jesuit school, don't want to take theology classes. And NYU I can also commute to if I want, Fordham I can't. </p>

<p>I think I can do well at either school if I work really hard, don't party too hard or whatever, and use all the help and resources...seems like a lot of kids who go to top schools are used to straight A's, and then are surprised to get B's and C's at their colleges, and aren't used to needing help.</p>

<p>molly4190, true NYU provide some really good freebies and extensive support (although Stern students get more) if you meant that as extra resources!</p>

<p>Prepare some list of questions before the open houses for each school. Ask the faculty and the students. Older students may provide better answers as they are more experienced. I am a freshman and probably won't give as much help as older students. Be aware though, not all students have the same experience. </p>

<p>For me, my experience is positive so far. However, a lot of the students at Fordham complain about the red tape by the administrators but the same also goes for NYU. However, I think it's really about connections. I spend my time talking (or networking with) to my professors (some of the professors work at the administration) and secretaries at the Office of Student Affairs to overcome red tape.</p>

<p>Also, I got to admit this about open houses. Be prepared to be "suck up". After all, the point of the open house is to make students choose their school. To counter this "sucking up" on you, questions are great and try to avoid too much positive thinking based on what they say. Some things are not particularly as good as they say , especially once you enter the school as their student. These opinions are based on my experience between what I was told at the open house and later found out as a student. Hope it helps.</p>

<p>Hm. Yeah, I suppose I'll just talk to the school I want to transfer to and go from there.</p>

<p>that's what I'm going to do, literaturegirl ^</p>

<p>so scion, you switched from fordham to nyu after a semester? I thought you could switch colleges after a year at the earliest and they prefer after two years, but I guess it depends on the school. </p>

<p>And i'm ready for some major suckage at the open house, since of course they're there to sell their school. and of course my mom and dad are just going to eat it all up, like they always do.</p>

<p>molly4190, you are correct that it depends on the school. NYU CAS prohibits freshman from applying with less than a semester worth of college.</p>

<p>I am not sure what colleges prefer but it's best for the student to apply as early as possible. It may be possible that some credits will not be transfer into the new school. Transferring out the second year may cause you to lose even more credits. The primary reason that some students do not graduate on time is because they do not have enough credits to graduate or did not have the time to finish the required University core courses. Of course, there's always summer school for you to obtain more credits so you can graduate on time in your new school. However, it is preferable that you use the summer to focus on a internship and work without the extra stress from summer school.</p>

<p>Which Fordham campus will you be at during open house? </p>

<p>I am from the Rose Hill campus in the Bronx. I won't be there since it's on Sunday though. I have class on Wednesdays and Thursdays though. You probably could spy on me during those pesky class visit programs (if you are going to Rose Hill) :cough cough:.</p>

<p>yep, I'm going to visit Rose Hill. Unless I am so completely blown away by NYU's open house this weekend that I end draping my body in purple garments plastered with the letters nyu, and end up skipping fordhams. </p>

<p>at first I was really happy fordham was giving me a scholarship, but now I realize that since I can commute to nyu, I save myself about $12,000 in room/board, plus all the extra supplies I would need to get. </p>

<p>cornell accepts transfer after one year, I think. I would prefer after a semester, but I think a year is better because they can see improvements in my grades from high school to college. and I think if I transfer they will pay less attention to my early high school years - the worst grades on my high school transcript were from grades 8, 9, and I guess 10. I did amazing junior year and senior year I'm doing well too.
When you transfer, do they look at your senior high school grades as well as ap exam grades?</p>

<p>I think you be able to commute from the Lincoln Center campus since it is in Manhattan (although it's a bit farther up north in Manhattan than NYU). I personally like Rose Hill better since it has a more of a traditional campus.
I live in Flushing, and it is somewhat close enough for me to commute to Rose Hill (I drive to the campus occasionally for class so it's probably a lot faster except during rush hour.). If you live in Brooklyn, Staten Island, or very far away, it probably take 2 hours or more.</p>

<p>As for your question, admission officers look at every grade (the grade for each individual course, not just the average GPA). </p>

<p>If you have more than a year of college (or more than 30-50 credits finished), they generally look at your college grades more. If your academic performance changed significantly, they may want to know what made you change. If they ask for the AP exam grades, they are likely to look at it. For transfers, they tend to like candidates that will likely graduate on time so having 4s and 5s is ideal. </p>

<p>Your grades are the last item to be checked (at least in Fordham). Admission officers want to understand you better before looking at your grades. This is to avoid having any confirmation bias on the applicant.</p>

<p>I don't really like LC as much as RH. But I am almost certain I will attend NYU next year. I'm really excited for it because the school has so much to offer...and I love the city.
I checked the cornell site and they accept 5's for all exams and 4's for most of them. So far I have four 5's on ap exams and am taking five more exams this year. I generally do really well on the exams so I figure I'll end up with nine 5's...hopefully lol.</p>

<p>Thanks for all your advice guys. I appreciate it. I asked the same question on the Rice boards and they were, frankly, pretty mean about it. Lol. So it goes.</p>