<p>i am an international students with
700-verbal
790-quantitative
and
3.0- writing section
i am engineering major and hoping to get top 50 engineering college
how does low gre writing score effect my selection at graduate school.
is this score bad enoungh so that i should retake GRE?
please respond.
thanks.</p>
<p>The verbal and quant are fine for top-50, but it would be ideal if you could bring the writing up to a 4.0. Regardless, GRE is almost the weakest factor in admissions, behind your research experience, letters of recommendation, gpa, class standing, and school reputation.</p>
<p>does engineering schools seriously consider AWA scores more than quantitative section?</p>
<p>For engineering, Quantitative is the most important, then Verbal, finally Writing. However, for each of these the department has a threshold (hard or soft) that they want all applicants to beat, and after which they do not care. The OP has a strong Q and V, but most good schools would like to see the 4.0. They may be more lenient with an international student, but I am not sure.</p>
<p>how lenient, does 3.0 leniency crosses the limit for international students?</p>
<p>No idea…</p>
<p>Most programs don’t care all that much about the Analytical Writing section. Especially since you have a strong Verbal score to compensate, I wouldn’t worry too much about it. For engineering programs, what they care most about is the Quant score, and a 790 is great.</p>
<p>There are ECE graduate program like Georgia Tech for instance, that are very number-oriented programs, in terms of admissions.</p>
<p>See the link below:
[Applications</a> and Admissions](<a href=“http://www.ece.gatech.edu/academics/graduate/apply.html#gre]Applications”>http://www.ece.gatech.edu/academics/graduate/apply.html#gre)</p>
<p>There is a minimum 3.5 AWA score required to be considered for admission.</p>
<p>so, does this mean its worthless to apply to GA tech despite high quant score?</p>
<p>are you required to take the TOEFL as well? your verbal score was high as well, so if you get a good TOEFL score maybe schools will overlook the AWA score.</p>
<p>in any case, i’d recommend contacting departments about your particular situation and asking outright if you need to improve the AWA to be considered.</p>
<p>I agree with StrangeLight. Just contact them and ask - that’s the only way to really know. :)</p>
<p>yes i took TOEFL and my writing score was 24/30
with total of (29R+22L+22S+24W) 97/120
and i don’t think 24/30 is good enough to redress 3.0 gre AWA.
i don’t want to say this but
and US engineeing colleges are insouciant toward int. students
i don’t know what to do now.</p>
<p>Hahaha, I love that you use the word insouciant when discussing your “low” writing score. How esoteric. ;)</p>
<p>Seriously, a 700 verbal is high for native English speakers. I have always thought (and others more knowledgeable have contended) that the AWA score is pretty much garbage. It is very heavily rubric driven and based on a 0-6 0.5 point scale leaving huge percentage differences between scores that are not necessarily indicative of actual (especially scientific) writing ability. That said, there are schools with minimum cutoffs as has been said, so it may be best to contact those schools to see if you will even get past the “gatekeepers”. Personally, I would hope that engineering schools would be a little lax in that particular criteria, but you should ask to be sure.</p>
<p>Honestly, I’m waiting for a major overhaul of the AWA section or for ETS to scrap it entirely pretty soon. It seems to be a fairly inconsistent joke at best.</p>
<p>As I received an Analytical Writing score of 5.5, I’d be lying if I said I had any personal grievances against the Analytical Writing section. Still, I think that having a firm AWA score cutoff is not a good thing. I also hope that engineering programs would be more lax toward AWA scores. In any event, ask to be sure.</p>
<p>hey guys i am in no mood to retake GRE
i am sure that 790 was more than i expected
although i can do better in verbal section
i cannot risk the incumbent score.
so does it even worth to risk 790 quant for sake of 3.0 in writing for electrical engineer?</p>
<p>But if you take the test multiple times, I’m pretty sure that most programs take the best score from each section when compiling your GRE scores… that’s how it was for all of the schools I applied to (engineering). You could ask your particular schools about that. Because then you wouldn’t be “risking” the high scores that you already got, you’d just be trying to bring up your writing score.</p>
<p>I definitely think it’s worth it to try again because some schools DO care about the writing section (including engineering). It shows how well you can communicate/organize what you’re thinking, beyond just recognizing vocab words.</p>
<p>If the ETS sent you one of those practice CDs, then read the sample answers to the writing sections to get a better idea of how to formulate your response. It really does help.</p>
<p>can you list some engineering college that take composite GRE score?
it would be really helpful.
plus i dont think good colleges such as penn state uni and uni of florida considers the latest score.</p>
<p>satrianic;</p>
<p>really. contact the schools you’re thinking of applying to and ask them. they can give you concrete answers and all anyone here can do is tell you their best guess. it’s clear from your posts here that while your vocabulary is high, your grammar is poor, and you probably won’t be able to improve your AWA that quickly with a bit of study. grammar takes a while to really absorb.</p>
<p>as someone whose native language isn’t english, but who is clearly very bright, i think many schools won’t disqualify you based on the AWA alone, but again. email them or phone them and ask.</p>
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<p>I second this. All we can do here is tell you what we think. What you really need to find out is what your prospective programs think, and the only way you can do that to ask them directly.</p>
<p>As an international myself, judging by what satrianic has written here, it seems like he has studied pretty intensely some of those GRE word lists (all these special words he has used in his posts were on these lists…) and at the same time his grammar seems pretty weak. </p>
<p>I think his best bet would be to study grammar. I easily got 30/30 on the TOEFL writing section with zero writing experience (I’m applying for Ph.D. in math) with one evening of preparation. However, I had only a week to study for the general GRE, so I didn’t have time to work on my vocabulary. Hence, my verbal score of 530. This has been enough to get me into one top 10 program and two top 20.</p>
<p>Summary: Just study some grammar. As far as I know, the AWA was added specifically to weed out especially Asian students who studied word lists like crazy, but their actual English skills were weak at best. At least that’s what I’ve been told. I think your TOEFL pretty much sums up why I think the verbal is an extremely bad test, because it’s so easy to study for (regardless of what ETS thinks).</p>