<p>I'm sorry to be asking because I know this must have been asked hundreds of times. Since there is no official ranking of premed programs, where do you guys think JHU's program ranks among the top schools? I'm seriously considering applying ED to JHU, but I want to make sure it's a good choice before I do. I plan to visit sometime soon as well. Thx in advance for responses.</p>
<p>Aside from their renowned graduate program, which is only bested by Harvard Med (which is really saying something, though many on here would disagree with me and assert that JHUmed is better), Newsweek ranks JHU as the "hottest" school for premed, which obviously equates to #1. My advice is, don't just apply to JHU because of rankings (even for premed), apply if you really see yourself there-the social atmosphere, the central setting (though some would say this may be more of a con)....Definitely give JHU a visit and see for yourself!</p>
<p>Johns Hopkins didn't have pre-med major so you would have to major in something else such as biology, public health, bme, etc. JHU has a great natural science department so you would benefit from that along with the large amount of research project going on on the homewood and med. campus. Go visit and see if you like it. It will prepare you for med school so you should see if you will fit in and like it.</p>
<p>In addition, the fact that Hopkins receives more federal research moeny than any other university means that it's difficult to NOT have research experience and/or a paper published by the time you graduate, which is something med schools want to see.</p>
<p>kornpopz - Yeah, I saw that newsweek article already. Wasn't sure how much credibility to give it after seeing their hottest business school and hottest Ivy rankings...</p>
<p>hswrestling07 - I'm aware of the distinction between premed and the major someone chooses (which is why I never said I want to major in premed). </p>
<p>YanksDolphins - Good point. I'm already quite involved in research in genetics/molecular biology and I'm hoping that will help on my application. </p>
<p>Thx for the responses.</p>
<p>njaznmed:
Personally I think you should not focus so much on rankings of pre-med programs, and rather look for a school that feels like the right fit and has a successful pre-med program. Choosing a school just based on rankings can really back fire. You need to find the school where you are going to enjoy your four years, be motivated to work and pursue your academic passions, and have an abundance of opportunities.</p>
<p>As far as how JHU stacks up in terms of pre-med ... well as the others have already stated quite well ... we are pretty, pretty good. The reputation is there and it is well-deserved. Our "pre-med" students do quite well in getting in to top medical schools and become some of the most successful members of the medical field later on. Just check the history of medicine as it is linked to Hopkins at all levels.</p>
<p>Whenever I speak with students who are thinking of studying the medical sciences at Hopkins as an undergraduate, I make sure to emphasize the following:</p>
<p>(1) Research - JHU is the nation's 1st research institution, and leads the nation in funding for research at all levels, especially medical research.</p>
<p>(2) Access to Research - JHU is well known for the abundance research opportunities for undergraduates including freshmen and sophomore years. Many undergrads at other schools wait until jr. or sr. year to start with research -- most JHU undergrads are actively involved in their own or team research by that time. Many JHU students conduct "graduate level" research while undergrads, and many are published or have presented at a national level before graduation.</p>
<p>(3) Pre-professional Advising - JHU has one of the top pre-professional advising systems in this country, and almost all the advisors have ample experience re: how medical school admissions works at the top schools in the country. They know how to advise students wanting to get into JHU Med, Harvard Med, etc.</p>
<p>(4) Programs Galore - Bioengineering, Public Health, Neuroscience, Biology, etc. etc. JHU undergrads have a ton of options in the natural, medical, and applied sciences ... not to mention some amazing humanities and social sciences programs to add diversity to your experiences.</p>
<p>(5) Facilities - Oh yeah, plus you get access to the top Hospital in the country, one of the top medical schools, one of the top nursing schools, and the top Public Health school. The JHU Medical Campus in East Baltimore is without question one of the greatest collection of health and medical institutions in the world. And as an undergraduate you have tons of access.</p>
<p>Hope that helps you and others looking to study the medical sciences at Hopkins.</p>
<p>oh yeah ... also ... i suggest checking out the Academics section of the Johns Hopkins Message Boards ... there is a ton of threads about pre-med and related topics:</p>
<p>Enjoy!</p>
<p>Don't go by rankings or anything of that sort. Go by fit. Most schools offer good pre-med programs, so don't make that your top criterion.</p>
<p>this is probably going to be a really ignorant question lol, but does anyone know whether the prehealth committee also writes recs for students applying to do schools and whether those students undergo the same interview process by the committee etc.?<br>
-tys
yay!! can't wait for freshmen orientation =D</p>
<p>yea agree w/ tetris...most people drop out of premed in all the undergrad schools in the first or second yr so it's really kind of odd to put too much emphasis on premed program quality, gl!</p>
<p>thx to all who commented</p>
<p>I care about the quality of the premed program at a school because a good premed program implies a good school for science majors in general and to darkhope: from personal experience, I'm pretty sure I will be sticking with medicine all the way through. Also, from the sounds of it, Hopkins is probably a great fit for me seeing as I plan to get involved in research as soon as I enter college (and by that time, I will have already had 3 yrs. worth of experience in a lab). I know Hopkins is good (really good), but before applying ED, I want to make sure it's a better choice than some other well-known schools (Ivies for instance).</p>
<p>At last report, 93% of JHU students in the pre-med program get into Medical School. It is safe to say that JHU's pre-med program is simply AMAZING?</p>
<p>I believe that that's a mottled statistic, seeing as JHU is notorious for screening out unqualified applicants. I wish there was a statistic to include those candidates as well. Since most of JHU is premed, there must be a lot of applicants who get weeded out every year.</p>
<p>njaznmed, as a student at Hopkins I'd like to see a recent source that states that Hopkins actively "weeds" students out of premed. Please.</p>
<p>Oh wait, there is none.</p>
<p>Sorry njaznmed but you are reading myths about Hopkins that are not true. There is no "weeding out" process based on the chances one will get into medical school. Search old posts there have been extensive discussions dispelling that myth. </p>
<p>Also the phrase "since most of JHU is premed" is not true, unless you consider 25-30% to be most of a school!!!</p>
<p>How exactly is the "Pre med" facilitated at JHU? Do they have to 'register" with the university and some one (within JHU) tracks or simply the student completes all the prerequisites without formally enrolling??<br>
If some wants to enroll at what time do they enroll?</p>
<p>the "weeding" occurs when your in a class of 300+ students that has a median grade of a C. From what I've heard from friends who are currently at Hopkins or have graduated recently, the pre-professional committee will heavily discourage people from applying to med schools to the point that it will tell a student that he/she has absolutely no chance of getting in. Furthermore, they will flat out reject giving the "Hopkin's seal of approval" to some students, which ultimately eliminates any chances those students have.</p>
<p>The committee will, however, work with the students and develop a plan to strength their credentials so that in a year or two they will gain admissions. A lot of praise I've heard from Hopkins stems from the fact that their intro science courses prepare you VERY well for the MCATs and give you a superb science foundation so that possibly lower GPA can be compensated by a great MCAT score. </p>
<p>25% of a class being premed is a large portion compared to the percentages at peer schools.</p>
<p>rajan...wait for a reply from Admissions Daniel. By all means, do not listen to any source who is really giving you second hand info, albeit, well-meaning. Daniel will set you in the right direction in your quest for accurate information.</p>
<p>These are questions I am frequently asked and also that there is usually a lot of misinformation out there about ... so I keep previous threads where these discussions have taken place bookmarked:</p>
<p>(1) <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=180276&highlight=pre-health%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=180276&highlight=pre-health</a>
(2) <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=212736&highlight=professional%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=212736&highlight=professional</a></p>
<p>Any student at Johns Hopkins can be pre-med ... actually you will be a pre-health student. Starting in the freshman year you can begin to meet with the pre-health advisors in the pre-professional advising office. Over your four years you will have 8 courses you must complete, as well as other requirements and deadlines to help prepare you for the medical school application process. The only students that are "weeded out" are those who don't meet these pre-health requirements. </p>
<p>Remember, the pre-professional office is an ADVISING OFFICE. If a student comes into their office with a 2.5 GPA, no research, limited extracurriculars and wants to apply to Hopkins Medical, obviously that is not something they are going to support. </p>
<p>Learn more about Pre-Professional here:
<a href="http://www.jhu.edu/preprof/%5B/url%5D">http://www.jhu.edu/preprof/</a></p>