<p>I've racked up about 5 W's so far but I'm considering trying a new approach.</p>
<p>I know like less than x % of one's classes can have a P / NP and i thiiiiiiink pre-reqs cannot have this but how do UC's factor in P /NP? I'm thinking of doing this for a class i don't really need but just to get a certificate cleared. </p>
<p>And what would be better, a W or a P ?</p>
<p>don’t take p/np for a major pre-req class most U.C’s only accept 4 p/np anyways and youw ant a grade for your big classes for your major</p>
<p>This is generally how it works:
P= C
NP= F
W= F</p>
<p>That’s how Grad schools look at it, as well as private schools for undergrad. UCs are a little more lenient for undergrads, but i still have no I have no idea why anyone would want to take a course for P/NP</p>
<p>W isn’t a F.</p>
<p>^it is. It’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove. Sure, you may know that you had a B in a class but you dropped it b/c u didn’t want to hurt ur GPA. And now you have a W. Well u know what, will u be able to prove any of that when u apply to grad school? no. a W is an F. sooner or later u will find that out. a W just represents your FAILURE to complete the course. it represents your failure to overcome any struggles that u may have had. you know what else it represents? when ur employer goes down ur transcript and sees all these Ws, he’s gonna think that if some outside distractions arise, or some emergency comes up, ur just gonna quit and “withdraw” from your work.</p>
<p>i love reading everyone’s excuses on here about why they got a W. you either have it or you don’t. only those who will admit that they screwed up and made a mistake will impress ad officers. people who say, “o, well i had a serious medical condition” or “o, my dog died” or some other tragedy won’t get anyone’s sympathy. that can happen to anyone. don’t expect the world to stop and sympathize for u if this happens to you. yea it’s sad, but that’s how the world works. you either work hard to overcome obstacles or u quit and get a W</p>
<p>hahaha. i think what lakerforever24 is trying to say is that a np and a w is looked upon the same way as an F–but i don’t see it that way.</p>
<p>someone would take a class pass/no pass if they want to take the course for fun. like, for instance, i was thinking of taking chinese over the summer for fun, but i don’t plan on transferring it over OR having it ruin my GPA if it’s my “fun” class. does that make sense?</p>
<p>oh but i DO agree with him on the “w” thing.</p>
<p>w is not an f, but if you rack up >2 than schools are NOT going to like it and you will not be looked at for admissions, especially for grad school</p>
<p>if a W isn’t a failure, would you call it a success? it’s gotta be one or the other.</p>
<p>Personally i view it as you have to look at the context of the W . Was the person taking 3 classes and dropped all 3 that semester then that can be a legitimate W it really looks as though you were facing an real life struggle.</p>
<p>But if you dropped 1 class and kept the other 3 and got A/B’s in the other then it looks as though you were failing and dropped it honestly</p>
<p>^yea that’s a good point. but most people just think that by saying that u had some real life struggle for one semester (where u had like all Ws), that’s enough to justify all ur Ws. it’s not. only if u truly learned a lesson and have PROVEN that you can succeed will u justify ur Ws.</p>
<p>for examlple:
bob has five W’s his first semester b/c he broke 5 ribs from a car accident. </p>
<p>he comes back a year later all healthy but only earns a 3.2. </p>
<p>bob then explains that if it wasn’t for the accident, he would have done better. uhm no bob, u fail at life</p>
<p>example 2:
kobe has a 3.9</p>
<p>but one semester his neck breaks. he gets 6 Ws that semester.</p>
<p>but next semester he comes back and gets a 4.0</p>
<p>ok, so kobe says that if it wasn’t for his neck injury, he might have done better. well given his past history and his present work ethic, i would agree that his 6 Ws are excusable. i’m still questioning his perseverance and commitment to overcome obstacles, but i see that he works hard</p>
<p>UCLA bought my excuse for all my W’s.</p>
<p>if you have a legitimate reason they will listen. </p>
<p>dont let the haters/ ■■■■■■ get you down.</p>
<p>and he also got to go to prom with Brandy</p>
<p>
better example
kobe has a 2.9
but one semester kobe has to deal with felony charges of sexual misconduct.
but next semester he comes back and gets a 3.0 so kobe says if it weren’t for that woman, he might have done better.
^yea that’s a good point. but most people just think that by saying that u had some real life struggle for one semester (where u had like all Ws), that’s enough to justify all ur Ws. it’s not. only if u truly learned a lesson and have PROVEN that you can succeed will u justify ur Ws.</p>
<p>for examlple:
bob has five W’s his first semester b/c he broke 5 ribs from a car accident.</p>
<p>he comes back a year later all healthy but only earns a 3.2.</p>
<p>bob then explains that if it wasn’t for the accident, he would have done better. uhm no bob, u fail at life</p>
<p>example 2:
kobe has a 3.9</p>
<p>but one semester his neck breaks. he gets 6 Ws that semester.</p>
<p>but next semester he comes back and gets a 4.0</p>
<p>ok, so kobe says that if it wasn’t for his neck injury, he might have done better. well given his past history and his present work ethic, I would agree that his 6 Ws are excusable. I’m still questioning his perseverance and commitment to overcome obstacles, but i see that he works hard.</p>
<p>A W is a failure for the sorry saps that don’t know how to speak at an interview. If you can manage to dissuade employers/schools that the W’s represent your current academic ability/work ethic, the W’s won’t matter.</p>
<p>didn’t know you had to show your transcripts at an interview, normally resum</p>
<p>well i go to ARC in sacramento, which has “brother and sister” colleges FLC and such… well i signed up for a class in FLC and couldnt end up diong it because of the commute. they never dropped the class or processed my request to drop, so i ended up with a W this semester cuz i passed the deadline. </p>
<p>that W dont mean ****. tell me that one? is that an F? no it certainly is not.</p>
<p>You don’t always have to show your transcripts at an interview. I’m not personally aware of any situation where even your GPA would be asked, though I’m not saying it doesn’t exist somewhere. I interview/hire people all the time for a Fortune 500 company (in the entertainment world) and it never comes up, even for fresh out of college applicants.</p>
<p>hello everyone
I’m considering transferring from ucsc to uci
i have really good grades [3.7 gpa], but i think im going to get a “NP” in one of my classes this quarter. is this going to ruin my plans?? :-/ or can i just make up the class in a different quarter? (this class was chem, but im not even a chem major, i just took it to fulfill GE)</p>
<p>laker = new king of false dichotomy. </p>
<p>and thanks for your subjective responses. -_-</p>