<p>Well, according to the constitution, you have the right to buy and have a gun, so it should be fairly easy.</p>
<p>And almost all states have right-to-carry laws, so if you want a gun for your own personal protection, check with the state and see what steps you need to take to get the liscence to carry a concield gun in public. It'll be alot harder to get mugged if you do.</p>
<p>"Get rid of gun control laws and America would be a lot safer."</p>
<p>What's that supposed to mean? Thats totally riducoiuls. Waiting a week for a background check doesn't hinder your ability to own a gun, unless your an ex-con. Putting age limmits on some firearms is not unconsitutional. Just because the constiution says you have a right to bear arms doesn't mean you have the right to have it same day delivery. And so far gun prevevalance in LA has not made it a safer city.</p>
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An analysis conducted by the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, comparing the latest drop in crime rates among the states, provides compelling evidence that the gun lobby is wrong: more concealed handguns do not mean less crime. According to the Federal Bureau of Investigations Uniform Crime Reports, from 1996 to 1997 the nations overall crime rate dropped 3.2%, from 5086.6 to 4922.7 crimes per 100,000 population. More telling, crime fell faster in states that have strict carrying concealed weapons (CCW) laws or that dont allow the carrying of concealed weapons at all than in states which have lax CCW laws.
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<p>So lets stop the maddness please.</p>
<p>If you need a permit to protest in the streets (first amendment), then you need one to own a gun, end of story.</p>
<p>^ I think that he was saying they should remove laws not letting you carry a gun on your person or not letting you use your gun in defense. In the states where that is allowed, crimes rates are lower. I wouldn't want to mug someone if they might have a gun. And trust me, fellons can't get these concealed carry liscenses.</p>
<p>And as for getting a permit to protest in the street, that's so the city can direct traffic around it and keep an eye on it so it doesn't get violent. I don't need a permit to call the President or a congressman an *******.</p>
<p>And on that point, do you need a permit to have a jury trial, or to not be subject to illegal search and seisure, or to keep the army from quartering soldiers inside your house without permission?</p>
<p>And while you said crime rates fell faster in states without CCW, could you give us the crime rates per 1000 people or something like that?</p>
<p>Wait a second. Look at who conducted the study. The Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, which is a government organization. Of course they are going to make the government look good. Notice that they are talking about crime in general, not murders. That could mean anything from victimless crimes, like posession of marijuana, to grand larceny.</p>
<p>What I want to understand is this stuff</p>
<p>the ACLU is in theory a good idea. We need organizations to protect our civil libeties. Yet they are "neutral" on the issue of protecting our civil liberty to own a gun. kinda picking and choosing civil liberties there?</p>
<p>and I agree with jamminjb5 in questioning a study about guns from The Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, seeing that their policy is to get rid of guns, not criminals. I wouldn't trust a simmilar study by the NRA. How about an independent study?</p>
<p>Florida has extended its "castle" laws so that you can legally kill someone who "threatens" you, even in public.</p>
<p>I think thats more of a protection against accidents</p>
<p>Say a man comes from behind with a knife, treatening to rape you. You manage somehow to get away, pull a gun out of your purse, and aim for his leg. Yet you are so scared, you miss and hit him in the liver. That's the situation their trying to prevent with that law</p>
<p>Anyone own assault rifles?</p>
<p>"I think that he was saying they should remove laws not letting you carry a gun on your person or not letting you use your gun in defense. In the states where that is allowed, crimes rates are lower."</p>
<p>If that’s what he meant to say he should have just said it.</p>
<p>When someone can prove that though causation I'd be more than willing to accept that. The fact is most violent crimes happen between people who know each other, are you going to pull a gun when you and your buddy get in an argument?
"And as for getting a permit to protest in the street, that's so the city can direct traffic around it and keep an eye on it so it doesn't get violent."</p>
<p>Are those not valid reasons to require someone get a gun license.</p>
<p>"And on that point, do you need a permit to have a jury trial, or to not be subject to illegal search and seisure, or to keep the army from quartering soldiers inside your house without permission?"</p>
<p>All these things are regulated and sanctioned by a government body. Yes, you need a state judge to conduct a trial, yes you need a judge to find that your right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure was applicable, and yes you need an act of congress to get soldiers out of your house considering we are at war.</p>
<p>"That could mean anything from victimless crimes, like possession of marijuana, to grand larceny." </p>
<p>How do we know if more guns on the street doesn’t coincide with a rise in victimless crime unless we look at crime as a whole?</p>
<p>"I agree with jamminjb5 in questioning a study about guns from The Center to Prevent Handgun Violence, seeing that their policy is to get rid of guns, not criminals." </p>
<p>There aim is to prevent handgun violence not get rid of handguns.</p>
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Research also shows tha tthe use of a firearm to resist a violent assault actu-ally increases the victim’s risk of injury and death.
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There is no credible evidence that "right-to-carry" laws, which allow qualified adults to carry concealed handguns, either decrease or increase violent crime. To date, 34 states have enacted these laws.
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<p>I'm not saying people should not own guns, I'm taking issue with the claim that no gun control would make America safer.</p>
<p>"Anyone own assault rifles?"</p>
<p>I do, well, my parents do. A single shot AR-15 with a 10 round magazine. And this is in California. We don't keep it at the house but we do own one.</p>
<p>Wait, if i shoot a guy trying to kill or rape me, there is a greater risk I'll get hurt?</p>
<p>Theres a greater chance he'll be more willing to hurt you.</p>
<p>And again, most violent crime happend between two people who know each other.</p>
<p>So.....you shoot him again.</p>
<p>"Is that a gun in your pocket, or are you just happy to be an international student going to Harvard?"</p>
<p>i might get an Uzi....fire off some rounds during my break times....</p>
<p>I heard that at Texas A&M commencements, the students who graduate with honors get to wear their holsters on the OUTSIDE of their graduation gowns. Talk about an incentive!</p>
<p>yeah but if i shoot him, how much damage can he do? and yes, why wouldn't i shoot him again?</p>
<p>And if a guy has a weapon and treatens rape, what should I do?</p>
<p>"the students who graduate with honors get to wear their holsters on the OUTSIDE of their graduation gowns."</p>
<p>LOL. Let me guess, when a grad student has to defend their thesis, they mean it literally. hahaha.</p>
<p>Has anyone who was the victim of a violent crime ever said "I'm so glad I didn't have a gun?"</p>
<p>"yeah but if i shoot him, how much damage can he do?"</p>
<p>9mm round (small enough to fit in a purse) often fails to stop a man-sized target, much less send him to the ground. You'd be surprised how much people can do after being shot.</p>